Hmmmm, I forgot I have a couple Blinker Genies in the garage to turn the headlight marker lights into turn signals. Not sure whether having white lights turn signals will attract the local LEO's......

 

For what it worth.

Texas Transportation Code § 547.324. Turn Signal Lamps Required

(a)?Except as provided by Subsection (b), a motor vehicle, trailer, semitrailer, or pole trailer shall be equipped with electric turn signal lamps that indicate the operator's intent to turn by displaying flashing lights to the front and rear of a vehicle or combination of vehicles and on that side of the vehicle or combination toward which the turn is to be made.
(b)?Subsection (a) does not apply to a passenger car or truck less than 80 inches wide manufactured or assembled before the model year 1960.
(c)?Turn signal lamps:
(1)?shall be mounted at the same level and spaced as widely apart as practicable on the front and on the rear of the vehicle; ?and
(2)?may be included as a part of another lamp on the vehicle.
(d)?A turn signal lamp shall emit:
(1)?a white or amber light, or a color between white and amber, if the lamp is mounted on the front of the vehicle; ?or
(2)?a red or amber light, or a color between red and amber, if the lamp is mounted on the rear of the vehicle.
(e)?A turn signal lamp must be visible in normal sunlight at a distance of:
(1)?at least 500 feet from the front and rear of the vehicle if the vehicle is at least 80 inches wide; ?and
(2)?at least 300 feet from the front and rear of the vehicle if the vehicle is less than 80 inches wide.

 

Chrispy, if you open your signals up, would you mind showing just what you did to yours in adding the extra lighting?

 

The factory signals are too low as it is. You want lights up higher to get the attention of cagers. One idea I've been playing around with, is utilizing the city lights. You know, those little lights in the upper corners of the headlight housing. I plan on tossing in some amber colored bulbs(maybe LED), and tying them into the stock signals, so when that they blink with the stockers. I've seen it done on the old FZ6's, and it really makes you stand out more.

 

novaks47

Any updates on the idea you have? I too have thought of this but not sure I would like the amber up front all the time. Can't find a switch back amber / white bulb in our little running lights size though so far. Thinking of just getting the brightest white bulb I can find and tie it in with a Del City 74991 lighting adapter and possibly the same to the side blinker light as each adapter can handle 3 amps I think it said. Probably would go LED any way so it would be a non issue. Anyway just wondering what you found?

 

I put some amber 194's in there(regular bulbs, not LED), but that's about it, lol. I like the look of amber lights up front. Don't know why, but it just looks good to me. Plus, since so few vehicles have amber marker lights these days, I figure it'll stand out a bit more. The regular bulbs aren't particularly bright, but good enough for now. I haven't tied them to the signals just yet. I'll likely do it when I do my projector retrofit, and swap housings. Don't know when that's going to happen, I have too many projects going at once again, lol.

I can't for the life of me recall how do wire them at the moment, but nobody had to buy anything to make it work. To top it off, the old FZ6 forum is long gone. I'll have to think about it, I'm sure I can figure it out.

 

novaks47


So your planning on disconnecting them from the running light circuit and tying them in with their corresponding sides blinker circuit utilizing them as just blinkers only? Which if your going to do the Projector install and have halos, the halos can take over the running light duty or you could even add something like switch back rope lights while you have them open.
The possibilities are absolutely endless now days.

Best of luck on finding that time.

Kenneth

 

I might do that, I haven't decided yet.

I was thinking about the old FZ6, and realized that the front signals on those bikes were three-wire setups, so that's why it was easy to make the city lights stay on, and blink with the signals. So, it won't be quite so easy with our bikes.

My projectors don't have halos. I could get some, or run those rope lights. My fear is that if any of it fails, I'll have to pull the whole housing off, and break them open again to fix it. That's why I'm focusing on the city lights, for when those fail, I can just reach under the fairing and replace the offender, or at least unplug both so it's doesn't look dumb/weird with only one functioning light, lol.

 

I was thinking about the old FZ6, and realized that the front signals on those bikes were three-wire setups, so that's why it was easy to make the city lights stay on, and blink with the signals. So, it won't be quite so easy with our bikes. .

The Blinker Genies make converting a 2 wire to 3 wire pretty easy, just have to decide on a color (white or amber). If I could find a quality switchback white/amber LED, I'd go with that and the Blinker Genie to have the best of both worlds.


https://www.customled.com/products/blinker-genie

 

Thank you! All the times I've been on their site, and I never noticed that, LOL. Now I feel dumb, especially as I have their integrated tail light.

 

I used the Blinker Genie on my motard and they worked great. Just be very careful you don't let any wires short out during install (make sure all your connections are made and protected before powering it up). If you let out the magic smoke, you can't put it back in. LOL

 

Haha, no worries there. I swear, 90% or more of my projects involve wiring things up, routing wires, etc. I also do this stuff at work, so it's easy. I'll probably just get some OEM connectors, and make it plug and play.

 

novas47


That makes sense. I have yet to use or see blinker genies but understand they do the same thing as the del city adapters do so should work. I've used the del city's before and are comfortable with them and hence the reference.


Chrispy


If you happen to find some switch backs that resemble the 194s / T10 let me know. Attached are just a hair bigger than the T10 but look smaller than a T7 witch I tried one of those to see and it might have fit going in the fairing but doubt you would have been able to remove it kind of tight feelings.


I think I might pull the trigger just to know on the switch backs below just to see..

 

I've been looking at LED wedge lights but can't decide if I want white or amber. I kinda think amber would look better.

I would like to use them as DRL and turn signals both as well so watching this thread close.

Please update how those switchback bulbs work if you get them.

 

Avintage

How do the Del City units work? Do they work the same as the blinker genies? If so, the switch backs won't work properly. The blinker genie cuts the ground, basically turning the light off briefly, in order to act like a blinker. Because of that, the switchback will simply turn off briefly, rather than switch between white and amber.

 

Hmmm, you are right. I wonder if there is a way to configure a relay to do the job?

 

The Delcity units are made to convert a separate brake light and blinker light on a vehicle to a single bulb brake light and blinker combo on a trailer. In reality it only interrupts the constant with the signal from the blinker and is completely out of phase/opposite the stock blinker. But with the correct switch back would have that euro look I think.
I've used them to make side marker lights on trailers and out board cab lights on trucks blink opposite the blinker wich was not the effect I was after then, but worked. Also to turn off after market driving lights when low beams are on. Or on with high beams in conjunction with a relay wired normally closed depending on how you look at it.

No luck so far on the right bulb and non of that helps. I'm kinda doggidly determined though when I get started so I'll search till I feel I've exhausted all options.

 

Ok so my knowledge here is lacking and help is needed, but on the switching or switchback bulb question I have found there are at least 2 different types of switchbacks and one I'm researching that is promising for it small size.

One style has two contacts and a single curcuit. Meaning its controlled by two wires only 1 + & 1 - . The way it changes from one color to the other is the electronics in side the bulb sense the pulses and changes color during flash till the steady current returns. Look up 3156 switchback and these are it.

Next is the four contact bulb and dual curcuit 2 + & 2 -. It also has builtin electronics but less as it only has to shut off the primary during blink cycle wich is completely controlled by the cars relay. Look up 3157

Then recently I've read there is a two contact bulb with out any electronics inside and controlled through the reversal of polarity on its two wire circuit and looks close in size to what we use. The concept is sound as LEDs are polarity sensitive but so far I've found only one site that was vague and I'm sceptical till convinced. They have yet to reply to my email so I wait and surf in the mean time.

If you know any more please share as I would love to make this work but am learning as I go here.

 

This is a good thread and I didn't want to make a new one. Does anyone know the correct diameter of our forks? Is it 41mm? I want to put these on my bike, thinking of going streetfighter and have some good ideas just not 100% about fork size.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/35-39-41mm...otorcycle-Headlight-Mount-Bracket-Fork-Ear-Aluminum-For-Cafe-Racer/332611545063