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If one of the factories was smart, im sure the vintage "men'" would find this satisfies their needs. This would work really well because it doesn't have the brembo brakes, or Ohlins shock that are so offensive to them.
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It was a simple explanation, a comparison since I already own an RS. So sorry it offended your girlish sensibilities. Maybe you and RCC can give each other a back massage to calm each other down and yet still demonstrate your manliness to each other.
my girlish sensibilities? You were the one being the little b*tch crying about your gay love for your ugly as all sh*t RS, desperately looking for validation (read: you have no friends) and justification for a purchase rendered obsolete by the new bike..

And if you were sanding in front of me, you'd be calling me sir. Trust me. So don't even go there little b*tch.

Now go ride your ugly bike to the rainbow Inn and get a room.
 

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You're free to buy whatever suits your needs. You like the Z900 better- go for it. Me, I feel otherwise. I think the Z900 is interesting in its appearance but no way would I ever choose that bike in a beauty contest over the Z900RS. And like I said, the RS offers all the performance I need. YMMV.
I totally agree that people should buy whatever suits them. However you seem to be very defensive when no one has questioned anything about your choice. You almost seem irritated by the fact that someone just might like the Z900 SE better than the RS. To each his own. But for most of us it is not a beauty contest, but rather function over form. Otherwise I would have never bought my Tracer GT, which is actually a pretty homely looking bike in my own opinion, but is very good in execution of it's intended purpose. Again, looks are totally subjective.

Glad you are enjoying your RS.
 
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Tracer gt makes sense, though, even though it might not look as pretty as an Mv Agusta.

Yamaha designed a motorcyle that works well, for a reasonable cost, that's way more functional, lighter and more powerful than a z900rs.

When they designed it, they didn't try to make it look like a motorcycle you would see on during the bicentennial parade, or something ridden by Shultz, on Hogan's Heros.

Then again, Yamaha did screw up the bike you bought with the xsr900 thing. Can't give them much credit. Credit to you, Johnny, for buying the real version of a 21st century motorcycle.
 

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I totally agree that people should buy whatever suits them. However you seem to be very defensive when no one has questioned anything about your choice. You almost seem irritated by the fact that someone just might like the Z900 SE better than the RS. To each his own. But for most of us it is not a beauty contest, but rather function over form. Otherwise I would have never bought my Tracer GT, which is actually a pretty homely looking bike in my own opinion, but is very good in execution of it's intended purpose. Again, looks are totally subjective.

Glad you are enjoying your RS.
All I was attempting to do was an offer of compare/contrast of the Z900 vs the RS, especially since I'm guessing most have never experienced either, and then they got their collective panties in a wad. Now one of the keyboard heros wants to flex. Oooh, so scary. Can't even have what I thought was a friendly discussion on a motorcycle board anymore w/out people blowing it out of proportion. Crikey, some of you folks need to back off the coffee or your meds and relax.
 

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That's why I like my Ninja. Not one cent spent on making it look good. Less than one cup of paint used to cover 20 of the ninja fuel tanks.Less paint than that used for the frames.

But, my bike has the same engine cases as a z900rs, with at least 40% more power. Same weight, but I have wind protection. Brakes and suspension that suits my needs, too. We get the real, aluminum frame. Touring? Yes, it would.

From a z 900rs test:

" Triumph’s Street Triple RS, the Yamaha MT-09SP and even Kawasaki’s own Z1000 all deliver more spec and greater performance for less money."


"....... details to it and it was noticeable how many random members of the public came up to us while we were filming the Z900RS to comment on "sorry for your lost penis", or to regale us with tales of late family members who rode back in the day. Back when Nixon was president."
 

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All I was attempting to do was an offer of compare/contrast of the Z900 vs the RS, especially since I'm guessing most have never experienced either, and then they got their collective panties in a wad. Now one of the keyboard heros wants to flex. Oooh, so scary. Can't even have what I thought was a friendly discussion on a motorcycle board anymore w/out people blowing it out of proportion. Crikey, some of you folks need to back off the coffee or your meds and relax.
There was nothing friendly about your approach. Contentious from the start. Nice backtrack though.

Maybe one day you can get the opportunity to see me "flex" in person little girl. I'd love the opportunity to meet such a tough guy like you.

Now go watch your gender neutral porn and relax while we drink our coffee..
 

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Well if taste in machines is outdated wouldn't you think the terminology used to be contrived and outdated as well?
Fake fins, face bravado. But "crickey" at least he's been riding for 40 + years! As you have, I have, most everyone has.... yada yada

anyhoo, great bike that SE eh? 😀
 

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I am 60 years old and would love to have a Japanese naked bike with top shelf suspension, brakes and a torque rich motor with a curb (wet) weight under 440 pounds. Better brakes and suspension are a benefit for any rider, especially brakes.
I'm 59 and just purchased a 2021 MT-09; 417lbs wet weight, 68 ft-lbs of torque, and no complaints about brakes or suspension. For top-shelf suspension there is the SP model. Brakes on both models include a radial master-cylinder and radially-mounted calipers. A snappy, light-weight naked bike is obviously vastly different from the almost graceful, cozy comfort of the 1000SX. I'm not currently able to have both so I chose the "thrill" over the "chill" (less money too of course).
 

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I'll gladly wear the title of Keyboard warrior...as if you thought that one up, yourself?

However, no one will ever be able to say I paid extra for a motorcycke with a crap shock and fake cooling fins.
I'll always think of you as an IvanHo ! :p
 

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I'm 59 and just purchased a 2021 MT-09; 417lbs wet weight, 68 ft-lbs of torque, and no complaints about brakes or suspension. For top-shelf suspension there is the SP model. Brakes on both models include a radial master-cylinder and radially-mounted calipers. A snappy, light-weight naked bike is obviously vastly different from the almost graceful, cozy comfort of the 1000SX. I'm not currently able to have both so I chose the "thrill" over the "chill" (less money too of course).
That MT-09 looks like it would be a fun ride! I've owned several triples and absolutely love them. I briefly considered getting a Tracer GT and turning it into an "R" model.
 

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I read a brief on line mag story yesterday, that 2021 is the 50th Anniversary of the Z1 and Kawasaki is going to release a special version presumably based on the Z900RS.
That bike would need a set of spoked wheels, double pipes on each side, and round halogen headlamp as a minimum spec. LED is too modern for a Z1 replica.
The paint job would be what ? The root beer/jaffa scheme has been used already, so that looks a sticking point.
Year 2021 is almost gone, so if it was to happen, it would be at a big event show in the USA. Anything coming up there to fit the rumour ?

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Rob, I think you are correct. I'll bet we see just what you described, but it will have an LED light. Maybe it will look old?

I always liked spoked wheels. I learned to build and tune them, years ago. Learning it took forever, but it was rewarding when you finally got to the point where the only measurement that was off was due to the weld in the rim. I remember being able to focus, and having my brain be somewhere else when I worked on spokes and truing a wheel. If you guys buy one, bring the wheels to me and I'll service them, no charge.

I think it's expensive to get these bikes through emissions approval. An entirely new exhaust might require a separate, expensive approval?

One color scheme that stands out was the Silver from the 1978 z1r. The body style isn't right, but the bike was beautiful. It sold for a premium, back in the day. What other classic Kawasaki colors do we have? They had a KZ 650 "custom" that had this paint job, somewhere around 79?
 

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Wow. Talk about an awesome flashback, these KZs immediately take my back to when I was racing against them on my GSs. That might have been the most magical time of my life. It was a magical time for motorcycling in this country and a lot of world champions came out of here for a while.

For a few years, before I had to get serious about life, these things were my reason for living. What am I talking about, I still haven't gotten serious about life and they're still my reason for living.
 
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