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Thought folks might be interested in seeing one on an N1K.

It is definitely a compromise; it raises the seating position a bit which makes a big improvement in legroom (at least for me, more of an improvement than the larger of the two peg lowering block options did), but the bike does lose some of its sportiness sitting up higher 'on it' rather than 'in it'.. it took a couple days to get used to the new position, but i'm still able to use body position in the corners without issue. i'll ride quickly on the street, but i'm not a knee dragger on public roads - not sure how much difficulty would be posed trying those antics..

as for comfort..hah. 50 miles on the stock seat and i'd be squirming a little. 100 and i'd be downright uncomfortable. this past saturday, in almost exclusively sub 40 degrees F (and much of it sub 30), i did about 275 miles. zero butt discomfort. quite the opposite; had the seat heater and on and WOW is that a luxury i'd like to not do without in the future :)

seriously, the comfort improvement is not possible to overstate. it is a LOT of money, it won't aesthetically be acceptable to lots of folks, and you give up some of the sportiness of the bike in riding position. For me, the upside of being able to ride all day more than outweighs those cons.. it is fantastic to get off the bike after a full tank of fuel and have zero rear end pain/numbness/etc and want nothing more than to fill up with gas and do it again...

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Unfortunately, the N1k, for whatever reason, lands in their most expensive build type (s-3 i think they call it)...so you'd better sit down for this...

My seat (rider only, velour rectangles with vinyl sides) is $650 + shipping ($60 to east coast). Heat is a $200 option. I'd heard people rave about the heat and knew i wouldn't be able to change that decision (easily), so figured in for a penny, in for a pound...with my commute already in the low 30's, it's money well spent to me. it takes a while to heat up (10 minutes or so), but once it does..the heated bum is glorious :) i think it will let me commute (about 40min each way) without using a heated vest/gloves, although longer, fun rides i'll still use them. i know $900 is a ludicrous amount of money for a seat...but like i said, the comfort improvement is impossible to overstate. going to leather is even more expensive, but a) i couldn't stomach any more $, b) i didn't want to have to care for it (the velour is maintenance free beyond wiping it down), and c) i had the velour on my fz1 and with ~10 years and ~50K miles on it, it was as good as new - it holds up.

Yes, it was built on my stock seat pan - have to ship that in. I tried to find a donor but only found a slightly ratty one that i had to cut off some plastic underneath to make it fit (probably from a z1000); i used that one while my original was at Russell.

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I totally get that for many folks the compromises outweigh the comfort...but not me :) I commute most days on a bike and my pleasure riding is usually a single day, around 250-300 miles (mostly backroads). Once a year (usually) i do a 7-10 consecutive 300+mi days trip...but that was never going to be possible on the stock seat for me.. My initial attempts at daily rides were so uncomfortable I was struggling to do 150 miles and it was ruining the bike for me.

I was a little disappointed at how the height increase seemed to be cause for loss of sporty feel....but two days of riding it and a) i'm comfortable moving across the seat for body positioning in the corners so i think it is more of a perception thing than an actual change in handling - still get good feel at the front, maybe even more than before because the added height puts a little more weight on my hands, and b) acclimating to the different position and actually running the roads near me at my usual pace seems like all is well..better actually, since my rear doesn't hurt :)

I actually think the N1k's RDL is aesthetically fine - better than how it looked on my fz1
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definitely feels taller than stock; like i said, it feels like i gained more legroom with the seat than i did with the motowerks peg lowering brackets. also noticeably more of a reach getting feet on the ground at a stop, although that is caused at least as much by the shape. and yes, definitely noticed a small additional forward lean due to higher butt...but it hasn't manifested in any discomfort, so a) it must be pretty minor, and b) some of the additional height gets lost in the break-in. a couple days of riding and i've adapted as i'm sure anyone would; it's not THAT different a riding position and the bike's reflexes are the same..

Russell do make a 'sport' option..in some pics they're clearly better looking..others, hard for me to tell the difference Sport Seats Gallery - Russell Cycle Products but i don't believe the 'sport' has the suspension in at as the 'real' one does, and having never used one, can't say how close to the 'real' one it gets comfort-wise..


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