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Some of that relates to how our brain process sensory input. When one input comes in very loudly, your brain might process it with priority and not bother with lesser inputs. Pickpockets utilize this to their advantage. They intentionally bump into you really hard to startle you, while they slip a hand into your pocket to take out your wallet. It's why I was advised by an old NYer to put my wallet in my front pocket and have a hand in that pocket covering the wallet, when walking in NYC.

It's also how sleight of hand magic tricks work.
 
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Helmets are the cheapest of insurance. I'd go by a new one. I am only here because my helmet protected me.
This. A helmet is $400-800 bucks. Life insurance and funerals are far more expensive.
 

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I wouldn't mind most of the helmet talk we hear, if it were true, or if there was evidence to show it was true. There isn't.

The only independent testing we have is the British tests. Shoei and Arai both have some very average helmets. Cost, or being handmade, doesn't buy you more safety. They don't score any higher than hjc, or anyone else. Schuberth didn't do well, at all. If the tests matter, an hjc was a higher quality helmet.

I think anyone would be happy to buy that helmet that would save their life. It's too bad we don't have much of a measurement to judge what that might be.
 

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Snell puts helmets through some pretty rigorous testing before they certify helmets though. If it has a snell rating I would think it's pretty good. My Shoei does not becuase it has an internal sun visor and snell won't certify those.
 

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Snell puts helmets through some pretty rigorous testing before they certify helmets though. If it has a snell rating I would think it's pretty good. My Shoei does not becuase it has an internal sun visor and snell won't certify those.
My dad used to rent a building to Snell when they first started out. It was pretty cool to watch because they had a tower and they would raise the helmets to different altitudes and then drop them and evaluate each helmet depending on how it responded to each drop. It was pretty fascinating.
 

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Bell,and a few others have gone in on this MIPS technology. It sounds reasonable. Everything else is still a variation on the beer coolers we buy at 7/11 with a hard covering.

 

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Number 1 - I know my head didn't impact the ground because the whole incident is very clear in my mind. It's funny how time slows down in these situations. I distinctly remember saying to myself, "This isn't going to end well" when the rear slid out a second time and I couldn't bring it back. The sound the bike made when it caught and then launched me, followed by the silence immediately afterward are still fresh 3 months later. And the really weird thing that happens when your mind is trying to process an overload of input - my sight was the only sense that worked. I had no sense of my extremities nor did I hear, feel, smell, or taste anything... until I hit the ground and it all came back! Because I had no sense of my hands and feet, my initial thoughts were that I was going to land on my face. Near the point of impact I remember thinking, "this is going to hurt".

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This may not happen to everyone but it's definitely real. Why accidents and emergencies seem to dramatically slow down time

During two of my high speed crashed I distinctly remember time slowing down like a special effect in a movie. I clearly remember leaving the track then flying through the air for what seemed like forever (around 80 feet) thinking, "Am I dead?" and then BAM, BOOM, BAM seeing dirt...sky...dirt...sky...dirt wondering if it was ever going to end. I could hear myself bouncing but I don't remember feeling anything (luckily I bounce, or at least used to bounce, really well). Amazingly like you the first time my helmet barely brushed on something enough to leave a slight mark that was hard to see. My second high speed crash was slow motion as well but that one definitely required a new helmet.

I'm really liking those new Bell helmets.
 
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My dad used to rent a building to Snell when they first started out. It was pretty cool to watch because they had a tower and they would raise the helmets to different altitudes and then drop them and evaluate each helmet depending on how it responded to each drop. It was pretty fascinating.
I heard they drop wieghts on them from different heights as well.
 

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I wouldn't mind most of the helmet talk we hear, if it were true, or if there was evidence to show it was true. There isn't.

The only independent testing we have is the British tests. Shoei and Arai both have some very average helmets. Cost, or being handmade, doesn't buy you more safety. They don't score any higher than hjc, or anyone else. Schuberth didn't do well, at all. If the tests matter, an hjc was a higher quality helmet.

I think anyone would be happy to buy that helmet that would save their life. It's too bad we don't have much of a measurement to judge what that might be.
how did NOLAN compare?
 

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Shoei will let you send a helmet to them for critical examination and they'll send it back with a report. Maybe HJC does something similar??
I wonder if the reports always come back, "Yep, you need a new helmet". lol
 
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I wonder if the reports always come back, "Yep, you need a new helmet". lol
Mine didn't. I accidently let it drop onto a concrete garage floor by setting it on my bike's seat, which was not a stable place to put it. I turned my back and heard it hit and went, "Aw...sh*t!". Shoei website said they'd analyze helmets of theirs that take a hit and return, shipping-free, to you with a report. Sent it in, got it back...all was OK. Good service.
 

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Gee I should have sent mine in for inspection... Then again, maybe not...
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Nolan did Really well . You would have to call them a quality manufacturer. Every helmet they had was 4 out of 5 stars. That's a better average than most.

Kenors, yours shows why Shoei gives you the touch up paint when you buy the helmet...I think they still do?
 

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For what's its worth, I bought another helmet... the exact same one. Fortunately, it's a closeout and I got it for $50 less. I still don't think there is anything wrong with the original one, but now I have an expensive display piece in my garage :D . Just for you to see, I finally got an angle where the minor surface scratches can be seen (It's the lines on the yellow and green stripe above the visor. The grey streaks near the vent adjuster and above the "M" are part of the graphic). You really have to catch the light at a certain angle to detect it. I can hold it in front on me and not see them at all. Since its just in the clearcoat, most likely I could buff it out and it would be good as new.

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I would have done the same thing, and it would have bothered me, too.

True, or not, the ability to trust tools, or gear is worth everything and not having to wonder if your helmet is ok is a big deal.
 
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