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I hate that the ninja 400 has a better looking dash than I have on a 1000 that's just 2 years older....
Well, I guess you don't feel as bad as somebody on this board who just bought a Ninja 300... :smile_big:
 

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I have added the after market shift indicator and mounted it high near the oil reservoir so I can read it on a sunny day,,. After a couple of seasons on the N1K I find I'm using the dash info less and less, including the speedo,. So much torque that unless your really running on the edge a lot of the tach and gear position is not as important as it once seemed,,. The gear indicator for top gear is still a useful reference thou!!

The 650 has also been updated in recent years and for 20% more dollars you get 30% more power and significantly more in the way of brakes then the double front rotors!!

The only thing I would like to see on the N1K is the quick shifter thats appearing on so many bikes like the Versus,Tracer and the Supersport,. I think they farm these features out sparingly over the product cycle to entice the gear heads that always want the next thing!!
 

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Having ridden two bikes with QS’s I can tell you that it is the next best thing. All bikes should have st least the upshift action like this. It makes any bike feel even faster than it is. It also eases the effort from the rider because it eliminates two hand actions. Instead of using three movements you only use one.
 

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Quickshifters are nice, but part of riding a bike to me is having to roll off the throttle to shift and the nice feeling when you hit the RPM's perfectly. I already clutchless upshift so really it'd just be making it like a paddle shifter car.
 

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In buying the '18 Ninja 1000 I sold a '17 Tuono 1100 Factory. Probably the closest I'll ever get to owning a tactical nuclear weapon...so much power and so little occasion to wisely utilize it. Kind of frustrating and impractical, ya know? Probably just as well, with the Tuono's limited tactical radius might you might not escape the blast zone...that thing should come with drop tanks.

That bike also had the up and down Q/S, but oddly enough I don't miss that particular feature! In town it was much better to shift manually, and even when accelerating hard I tended towards manual upshifts- they just seemed a little smoother and less shocking to the drivetrain. The system did downshift rather nicely! But on a number of occasions I must've nudged the lever with my boot or something because it would do a spurious clutchless shift. Kind of unsettling! That's never happened to me on any other motorcycle.
 

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Love the Ninja 400, but could I withstand the temptation to call Jeremy Toye for some "advice"?

https://www.cyclenews.com/2018/10/article/jeremy-toye-ninja400r-com-kawasaki-ninja-400/
Man that is so tough... I had that problem when I first bought my 300. "But it's only $100", "but it's only $75". I came from modding my full size truck where the price tag was $500+ for a single item. Before I knew it I had spent almost $1000 on my 300 and only ridden it maybe 500 miles.

I really liked the weight and size of the 300, but at times I would be wide open throttle and not going anywhere. With the 1000, I don't even come close. Next bike may be something in between like the 400 or a 600.
 
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Guy somewhere local to me has a Ninja 400 with 600 miles on it for sale for 4k with a helmet and jacket...

I was tempted....
 
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Guy somewhere local to me has a Ninja 400 with 600 miles on it for sale for 4k with a helmet and jacket...

I was tempted....

I bought my 400 a couple month ago, and I love it. I think it is the perfect compliment to the Ninja 1000. It's similar in many ways, but so light and flick-able it is it's own beast. I think I made a great choice. It is frugal to run, regular gas at 60 MPG, cheap tires & maintenance. what's not to love. The build quality and fit and finish is really incredible for such an affordable ride. The brakes are strong, the handling is great, and it's a blast to ride. I'll take one any time...
 

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For 2019 Kawasaki has a naked version of the Ninja 400 called the Z400. At $4799 with ABS, it's $500 less than a similarly-equipped Ninja.
 

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In Midwest CCS racing, the 400 has been allowed into a bunch of ultralight racing classes and the couple of guys who picked one up are cleaning house. Guys on 300 ninja's, R3's and RC390's are all pissed off.
 

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If ya can't beat 'em...

I'm surprised Yamaha has not countered with a 400 twin, perhaps they are too distracted with the Niken trike project.
 

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The 400 is definately a sweet bike, i enjoy looking at it sitting by my NK1 everyday lol in the garage, the amazing part besides the looks and how quick it revs up is when you go to move it around, feels like a bicycle compared to the nk1.
 

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Yamaha chose to keep the R3 motor and just update the chassis and bodywork.

I also test road the R3. By itself it's not slow. But mixed in with SoCal traffic, it's too slow. Especially in the first 2 gears you have to really wring out the motor to get ahead of all the SUV's and minivans trying to swarm all over you. No thanks.
 

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I understand this is an old thread but I bought a N400 November 3rd and just turned 5,400 miles this week. I love the bike, seriously and can't see selling it. However, I rode a '14 N1K last week and was hooked immediately, and I sat on a 2020 1000SX and it fits me nicely even at 5'-6", better than the 400 really. Also sat on a 2018 H2 SX and it was sweet but the 1000SX is what I want and all I can think about despite only a few payments in on the N400.

BTW, I am 55, started riding really young (5), riding a CB750 by 12 and off the street since I was 18. So I
consider myself a total newbie with 5,400 miles and 4 months and 2 weeks seat time.
 

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Welcome LSX, the 400 is a great bike, I ride my daughters from time to time and love how it accelerates, the N1k will definately be more comfortable and no comparison in power. If you have not rode in a few years I recommend you stay with the 400 untill you get your bike legs back. I went to a Honda 500 when I got back in riding for a year then got the N1K.
 
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