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So, I've got a problem. I'm going to summarize here as best I can without being too lengthy or long.


I have a Bell Star Carbon, see attached image.

The helmet is great, but I don't think it belongs on the touring bike. It's louder than what is desired if I am going for more than an hour or so. After about 45 minutes it starts to fatigue me, and beyond that I get more and more annoyed. I don't think this is a helmet specific issue, I think it's more an airflow issue offered by the Ninja. I have noticed if I place my hand perpendicular to the helmet on the side of the visor, the noise is reduced significantly.

Fitment of the helmet is great though, and the Transition visor is to die for. In fact, I cannot deal with a helmet that does not offer that option anymore because of this.

Airflow is good, I wouldn't say great, but it's kept me comfortable up to 90* (have not ridden higher than that for not having this helmet when weather was that hot)


Anyway, here is where I am at:

I want to put a SENA on a helmet. I currently have UClear Speakers wired to the helmet. They are sufficiently loud. With the noise of the helmet though, I can barely hear the music and have no chance of hearing navigation directions if I am on the freeway (or 65+mph). Defeats the purpose of running nav on trips.

And the noise is becoming unbearable. In fact, I'm to a point where I'm thinking of just selling this helmet and picking up a replacement.

But I need quiet. Something I can hear what is going on in my helmet without the drone of wind noise.

Tape and closed vents did not effect the wind noise.



I'm getting scatter brained. I'm not sure where to go beyond this.

I tried on a Shoei RF1200 today, but according to WebBikeWorld, it is actually LOUDER than the Star I already have! The helmet fit good though and was light.
 

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Quiet Helmet

My girlfiend uses a Schuberth S2, claimed to be one of the quietest helmets. She loves it and listens to music while she rides. I have never tried it because it doesn't fit my round (HJC) head.

I use the National Cycle Vstream tall windscreen. Keeps the wind noise down a lot.
 

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A long time ago I had a Nolan helmet and the faster you would go the louder it got. I like an Arai for fitment, comfort and airflow. (and quiet) I never ridden with speakers or comms. Let us know how it is.
 

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See if you can find a way to pad the area under your helmet. If temperature makes it possible, I ride with a hoodie. You roll the hat portion up and roll it under the helmet. Noise drops considerably. As far as a helmet rating , for noise, I dont think it can be done. Webbike world does all they cna do, but as they mention, noise is so fit related its tough to measure.
 

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I have 6 Fly Paradigm Helmets and they all are very quiet. I wear an ear bud in one ear and have a great time listening to music. They are no longer made which is why I bought so many and I still see them on Ebay. They make newer model helmets and are probably as good or better and would try one on at a local shop and see what you think. fwiw.
 

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See if you can find a way to pad the area under your helmet. If temperature makes it possible, I ride with a hoodie. You roll the hat portion up and roll it under the helmet. Noise drops considerably. As far as a helmet rating , for noise, I dont think it can be done. Webbike world does all they cna do, but as they mention, noise is so fit related its tough to measure.
After 75*, I cannot stand to have more stuff stuffed in my helmet. I get too hot. I'm a (****) Yankee that moved from MI to NC. The heat here is too much for me after a certain point. So a helmet that gives halfway decent vent is a must.
 

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I have the same Bell Star Carbon with transition shield (just in a different color-LOVE the shield as well). It's a top of the line helmet but in the end, it is a race helmet meant for 3/4 or full tuck riding position, so not ideal for the N1K. Also, most race helmets with great airflow are loud. I always wear ear plugs with mine unless I'm not on the fwy.

All that said, I love it and just used it on a 300mi tour this past weekend and it performed well; my main complaint is that the tighter fit eventually caused some discomfort behind my ears (I wear glasses), so I recently picked up a Scorpion Exo T1200 for touring. Haven't put it to the test yet but I can already tell it has a slightly more relaxed fit.
 

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You don't need a better helmet most likely ... just custom earplugs.

With mine I can still hear the most silent parts of classical music through.
It just filters out wind noise, not the rest.
And I only have the medium filters in it.
Be aware ... you will go faster with them, as you will feel way more comfortable at higher speeds. I call them my turbo's. I go on average +20mph faster with them, then without them.

For wind, I had more turbulence with the windscreen in the highest position then in the lowest. I always put it in lowest.
 

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Helmet noise is subjective and perceived, I wear earplugs full-time, and ride with a V-Stream Touring windscreen, so I'm qualifying my remarks here as a personal experience. I've worn a Shoei Qwest helmet since 2012. I've had many different brands of helmets, including Shoei, over many years. I've found the Qwest to be the quietest lid I've owned, even without plugs. It's about time to replace the Qwest with a Snell 2015 rated model, and most likely I'll probably go with another Qwest. Only downside is no Transitions shield is available.
 

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True but he is correct that the Bell Carbon is loud. Noticeably louder than any other helmets I've owned. Non-issue with some light earplugs though.
Good point. No questioning his take, wanted to qualify my remarks on recommending the Qwest as a possible purchase. I tried on a Carbon, but the fit didn't work for me, didn't test ride it. Good thing to hear the comments as it sounds like it'd be too loud to use for longer rides.
 

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Good point. No questioning his take, wanted to qualify my remarks on recommending the Qwest as a possible purchase. I tried on a Carbon, but the fit didn't work for me, didn't test ride it. Good thing to hear the comments as it sounds like it'd be too loud to use for longer rides.
It depends on the fit and whether you like using ear plugs or not. For hours in the saddle, the Bell is a bit tight for me with my glasses. No issues with noise for me personally; I typically wear ear plugs for the fwy and then take them out on the back roads. The wind noise at higher speed is really what makes it loud; not so much noise from the bike or traffic.
 

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You don't need a better helmet most likely ... just custom earplugs.

With mine I can still hear the most silent parts of classical music through.
It just filters out wind noise, not the rest.
And I only have the medium filters in it.
Be aware ... you will go faster with them, as you will feel way more comfortable at higher speeds. I call them my turbo's. I go on average +20mph faster with them, then without them.

For wind, I had more turbulence with the windscreen in the highest position then in the lowest. I always put it in lowest.
I have not seen any custom plugs places here locally. They all seem like a state away.


I've found the noise to be centered around the visor hinge point. Putting my hand to block the wind in other areas does not seem to effect the tone of the noise as much. It makes me think that maybe my visor isn't sealing as well to the helmet as it should.


And it is just the wind noise. It is my only complaint. I have not noticed the tightness from the glasses either. (re: not since the helmet wore in that is)
 

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I have not seen any custom plugs places here locally. They all seem like a state away.


I've found the noise to be centered around the visor hinge point. Putting my hand to block the wind in other areas does not seem to effect the tone of the noise as much. It makes me think that maybe my visor isn't sealing as well to the helmet as it should.


And it is just the wind noise. It is my only complaint. I have not noticed the tightness from the glasses either. (re: not since the helmet wore in that is)
Here in Belgium you can order custom motorcycle earplugs at any ear specialist centre.
Mostly it are vision & hearing centers here ... and we have a lot of them.
 

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Upon further inspection, I think I may have found a reason/cause for such bad wind noise.

The visor doesn't sit flush with the view opening of the helmet, creating a seal issue. This is true for the two spots on the side of the helmet. This may also explain why pressure on the side of the helmet helps solve the issue, as it would be pressing the visor closer to the seal.
 

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Any soft ear plugs will be fine since you just want to cancel out some wind noise, not block all sound period.
Well you're wrong on that part.
if you don't have a special filter in it, it will just block all sounds equally.
A filter just filters out certain frequencies ... like for example wind noise.
 

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Upon further inspection, I think I may have found a reason/cause for such bad wind noise.

The visor doesn't sit flush with the view opening of the helmet, creating a seal issue. This is true for the two spots on the side of the helmet. This may also explain why pressure on the side of the helmet helps solve the issue, as it would be pressing the visor closer to the seal.
Yep, that'll do it!

See that large philips head screw? There's one on each side. Loosen them both, just a little, and push that whole plastic assembly as far rearwards as it'll go, then tighten those screws. That will pull the shield as tight as it will go against the seal. If it's too tight, then just loosen it a bit. Hopefully there will be enough adjustment to get it sealed correctly.
 

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Well you're wrong on that part.
if you don't have a special filter in it, it will just block all sounds equally.
A filter just filters out certain frequencies ... like for example wind noise.
What I meant was that you don't need high quality ear plugs that can block out all sound. All you need is something to mute the noise level a bit. The cheap ear plugs I listed above work perfectly fine for my liking. In fact, I do feel like they reduce wind noise more than other sounds, possibly because of the reduced turbulence in your ear since you're blocking the ear canal.
 
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