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Yet another forum I followed died a miserable death at the end of last year. The last few people just disappeared. There are a dozen-ish people that regularly post on this one. Facebook groups seem to be falling off as quick as they appear.

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I have to agree. I've been part of forums for well over a decade, but I've been a member here for only two months. There isn't a whole lot of activity here and often wonder if there is another forum that has activity.
But, I have to say that the regular posters here seem to have a great deal of knowledge of the bike.
 

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Is anything replacing the forums? People are still talking over common interests, someplace?

Remember those e mail lists that were popular in the 90's?
 

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It’s interesting to me too why some forums die and others stay active. I am a forum junkie. I look at 8-10 on a daily basis, and a few several times a day. The logical answer would be when a bike has been arounf for several years with little to no changes. But that is not the case. I’m on the FJR and BMW 1600 forums and they stay active and have had very few changes.

The KTM forums are nearly dead also.
 

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I was a member of a sport bike forum specifically located in Orange County, California (SoCal). It was called "OCmoto".

I've never met so many dickheads in my life. Online, and in person. I was surprised that they rode the same as they posted online. No group riding etiquette. No manners. Every rider to himself. There were a few good people and I've kept that friendship alive and we still ride together. But the rest of them characters I dumped like a bad habit. I honestly cannot ride nor spend as much time with such selfish, negative energy. I did one long, multi-day ride with them...never again. The website is still around but the same dickheads are still lingering around, which scared off all the newbies, and the good folks. Maybe it had to do with the attitude of SoCal folks in general...I don't know. I hope not.
 

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I'm not a terribly social person and mostly come to the forums for technical ideas. I'm here because the previous Ninja forum I was on simply died and Roland was nice enough to point me here. Having been around these things since email groups you start to see that it's a circle of life kind of cycle. The lifespans differ but as surely as the seasons, nothing lasts forever. Bike specific forums tend to follow the lifespan of the bike model. Hence the longevity of some FJR & BMW forums and the shortness of others. The VFR forums lasted quite well until Honda did what Honda did. Forum longevity also seems to have a lot to do with a fairly small number of people. Sometimes a few folks enthusiasm carries a forum. I've seen it in local forums where one person (or a few) put a lot of effort into organizing events keeping everyone pumped up and excited to be a part of the group. They stop and it all goes away quickly.

I don't participate in giving all my personal information to everyone and every company in the world so I'm not a facebook user and try to keep as low an on-line profile as possible. I assumed that's where all the groups were going.
As for this forum, there seems to be some hope. I've seen several new folks recently and we seem to have a fairly solid core. Let's hope the 2020 Ninja is a big hit!
 

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Kenors, in my corner of the country, I see way more, MORE, adventure riders, and dual sport riders than sportbike riders. I see about as much ADV/DS riders as I do H-D/cruiser/Sons Of Anarchy type riders. Sport bike riders I see less and less. And as I ride further away from population centers, I see even LESS if no sport bike riders at all. Yet I still encounter Cruiser, and ADV/DS riders.

I think this shift to adventure riding is just hitting its second wind. I just went to a local to me desert state park and visited the nearby town/watering hole. Mind you this park is surrounded by epic twisty roads. I saw what seemed like a ton of bikers stopping, having a drink, eating lunch, in a period of about 2 hours. Most of them were ADV/DS riders and cruisers. A handful were sportbikes. 10 years ago (I've been going there for that long), I remember seeing tons of sport-tourers and sportbikers stopping there. VFR's, CBR's, GSXR's, and Ducati's were everywhere. Now these have been replaced by Africa Twins, Suzuki DR650's, KTM's, and BMW GS's. I saw maybe one FJR1300. Meanwhile KTM 990's, 1190's, and 1290's were a dime a dozen!
 

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Is anything replacing the forums? People are still talking over common interests, someplace?

Remember those e mail lists that were popular in the 90's?
My thoughts as well, but wonder where they are going. There is too much competition on FB with everyone opening their own group. Meetup came and went, at least around here. I know interest in motorcycles is down, people showing up less at all the motorcycle dealers.
 

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Well I'm 45 years old and I feel like one of the youngest guys here and most other forums I'm on. My group of riding buddies is all older than I am and they are getting old on me and don't ride as much. So I think it's a generational thing with motorcycling and I am just riding bikes younger people aren't interested and/or can't afford. I'm sure the Yamaha MT-07 crowd is much more lively.
 

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This is a very good board by comparison in my experience,,.

Folks here are usually tripping over one another to help on this board where as the BMW board I participate on once and a while doesn't offer nearly the same experience while at the same time there are concerns over there of lack of participation,,. They seem very be defensive of the Brand and some members can be quite egocentric with there knowledge and experience, like telling you what something isn't, or recommending you invest in a repair manual,,.

The other thing we don't get here that many forums get is the **** disturbers,,. Ive participating on all kinds of forums from Photography Gear & Photo Rating sites, to Equity trading sites and they invariable attract one or two absolute **** disturbers that ultimately turn a lot of the threads into ridiculous debates and name calling,,. I don't know that Ive ever seen that here in 5 years of participation!!

Im pretty sure I wouldn't have done half the mods and work Ive been able to do on the N1K were it not for the valued advice and generous participation of the members here!!
 

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I've only been here about a year. But when I joined in December 2018, I've had nothing but good, mature advice. RCannon helped me with my 2012 front brake pulsing (he already knew what was up while I was clueless and started spending money chasing dead end solutions). Others chimed on on the 190/55 rear tire and that also immediately solved my other issue on my N1k's. Justin Long's video helped me put a 12 volt power solution on my '18 that costs a fraction of the OEM one, he even made a video on how to remove the front fairing, which I needed because I didn't have a service manual at the time. Not once have a gotten a **** response. Ok Rock got all pissy at me but that's just Rock being Rock (must be a New York thing, right Rock?)

I believe the members on his forum are just mature and well mannered. All the dickheads are in the ZX and Z650/Z400 forums. As usual these damn progressives! LOL! Sometimes it's good to have high insurance rates to keep the riff-raff away. I keed about the high insurance rates.

I did join a local Ducati forum because at the time I knew someone who had a Duc and I was considering getting a Ducati. OMFG! The shallow, elitism, and condescending attitudes of the Ducati owners on that site drove me nuts. And I just lurked, didn't even post. They even roasted their own noob owners or wannabe's wanting to buy the entry level Ducati's because that was what they could afford! Nope. Not for me.
 

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Is anything replacing the forums? People are still talking over common interests, someplace?

Remember those e mail lists that were popular in the 90's?
Dude... remember dial-up bulletin boards before the internet? I ran one with two whole phone lines! Hahah.

Honestly I think Facebook is dying too and Instagram is the bigger deal these days. It feels less life invasive and more fun. Get a picture and chat a little in the comments. Of course the ability to hold a technical discussion is completely gone.

Some forums are making it. Ninjette.org for small ninjas gets about 100 posts a day while kawasakininja300.com gets 2 posts a day. The difference? Ninjette is privately owned, and it shows. Friendly and personal people everywhere. Fun to hang out and chat. Kawasakininja300.com is just another corporate owned piece of **** VerticalScope forum whose existence is merely to serve advertisements. All the good people left, including me.

All the best forums are privately owned. Started out of love by hobbyists, and that pulls people in. And not having to look at 6 animated insurance advertisements on one page helps too.
 

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I'm not much on forums either, but this one has been a welcome change. I had just gotten back into sportbikes after years on Harleys. My sport bike experience came from back in the late 80's, and none of my friends have one. So, I searched and found this group. I have gained a lot of good information, how to's, and general advice. I now find myself checking for new posts each day, which I've never done. Appreciate all the help from everyone! And that there haven't been any douches, as there's enough of them in every day real life.
 

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One of my local forums is dying a slow death and I am not sure why. It was a sport bike riders forum not tied to any specific model and it brought a lot of local riders together. I have made a few very good friends there and still do the occasional local ride with them. I have owned a couple super sports and it seems the forums dedicated to those specific bikes have always had a couple of knuckleheads who are rude or ignorant.

This forum has been excellent with a lot of great folks and valuable help and information. I plan on keeping my 2013 for a very long time so I hope this one lives on for a good while.
 
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Meetup was a great way to meet riders, many who have become friends. The problem is nobody wants to lead the rides, including me. It's a lot of work to herd cats of all bike types and riding capabilities and keep them together. I've led many rides with a couple of the groups and I'm done. Sport bikes, adventure, cruisers, heck occasionally a KLR. I was just there for others to ***** about how they could do it better, but won't, and I get no help to make sure nobody gets lost. We went from a half dozen good groups to one. The last one is a bunch of sketchy talented squids that only want to try to impress others. It's flat dangerous.

The local forum out here is still full and busy, but it has many of the same jerks/squids as the last existing meetup group. No thanks.

As most know, I no longer have a N1K, but my gf does. Even if she didn't I'd still hang around until I get run off. Good group here.
 

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Meetup was a great way to meet riders, many who have become friends. The problem is nobody wants to lead the rides, including me. It's a lot of work to herd cats of all bike types and riding capabilities and keep them together. I've led many rides with a couple of the groups and I'm done. Sport bikes, adventure, cruisers, heck occasionally a KLR. I was just there for others to ***** about how they could do it better, but won't, and I get no help to make sure nobody gets lost. We went from a half dozen good groups to one. The last one is a bunch of sketchy talented squids that only want to try to impress others. It's flat dangerous.

The local forum out here is still full and busy, but it has many of the same jerks/squids as the last existing meetup group. No thanks.

Thanks 57x, you just saved me from posting my EXACT thoughts. I think we've been living parallel lives......:smile_big:
 

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If you want to know why people leave motorcycle forums, I'd point you to our recent gun control thread. Politics and religion have no place in a forum for motorcycles. Whether you agree or not, reading post after post about why this person is wrong and an idiot, and this other person has all the answers gets old fast! There are plenty of groups out there where you can tell me I'm stupid for voting one way or another, but please, can this motorcycle forum not be one of them?
I don't go on the sport touring forum at all anymore because of one guy that wanted to talk politics and that's it. He found a way to drag every bike related topic back to hating on one politician or another. BORING ****! Motorcycles, now that's interesting!
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While non-motorcycle discussions may not be boring, there are always places on the internet where they can be discussed. Still, some folks seek other audiences. The problem is easily solved. Simply ignore the thread and don't respond. If they can't get an audience, the topic soon goes away. It costs nothing NOT to read a thread and as long as the number of non-topic threads isn't too great.

On this board, for me at least, that number remains acceptably small.

The Ninja is a "do it all" bike and this forum seems to have a pretty good mix of of folks who ride fast, to not so fast, twistys to turnpikes and can express their joy at what they do without having to denigrate those who ride differently. I know, for me personally, it's because I am a bit older and no longer know "everything" or think my way is the only way. (Not that when I was younger I was EVER that way. :) )
 

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One of my local forums is dying a slow death and I am not sure why.
We had a local forum that did die and I know exactly why. Well actually we have 2 local forums. One survived.

But the one that died basically ended up being track day riders and racers vs street riders. At one point a majority of members switched to racing and never went on street rides anymore. And the rest got sick of it. "All you guys talk about is racing" is what we would hear sometimes. So basically all the street riders left, (and they didn't go anywhere else, they just left forum life) then we all went to a different local forum where there were even more racers and track day riders just to have more people to talk to. The end result is one completely dead forum that used to be super active.

People say "oh this forum has both street and track riders" but no, it pretty much leans one way or the other.
 

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I've only been here about a year. But when I joined in December 2018, I've had nothing but good, mature advice. RCannon helped me with my 2012 front brake pulsing (he already knew what was up while I was clueless and started spending money chasing dead end solutions). Others chimed on on the 190/55 rear tire and that also immediately solved my other issue on my N1k's. Justin Long's video helped me put a 12 volt power solution on my '18 that costs a fraction of the OEM one, he even made a video on how to remove the front fairing, which I needed because I didn't have a service manual at the time. Not once have a gotten a **** response. Ok Rock got all pissy at me but that's just Rock being Rock (must be a New York thing, right Rock?)
Yu tawkin tuh me?! eh? :mad:


There has been occasional fights here but they were very tasteful. RC calling good 'ol Tim a pathetic cuckold a few years back comes to mind :grin:
 
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