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Hey all,

Riding up to Laguna Seca for the Superbike races next month and am looking to get a tank bag. Prefer a gas cap ring mount option. For those of you using gas cap ring mount tank bags please show me what you have. Curious to see how they fit on our bike. Currently looking at Givi's offerings, but open to any other brand as well.
 

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I'll see if I can pics of my set up using the GIVI.

Right I can say it works very well. Worked on my VFR and it's working on my N1k.
Thanks for the prompt reply. If it's too much trouble to get a photo don't worry about it, you're credible and I take your word for it that it works well. If you happen to know the model or can identify it online that would be very helpful though.
 

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I have a Givi XS308 that was on my previous Ninja 300, then my Ninja 650. I loved that bag ! However, since I now have the side hard bags, I didn't install it yet. The tank ring isn't too obtrusive, and to get the back on/off is quick and simple. Also, the bag doesn't touch the tank, and doesn't block movement when in place. That being said, these comments apply for n300 and n650, as I didn't try it on the n1000 yet.
 
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I'll take photos this weekend because I have the small GIVI bag and large one also. It will give you a very good idea of how they look and fit on the bike. They don't hug the tank they kind of "float" on top of it. When the big one is on the bike, hanging off the bike gets a bit limited.

When you order the tank lock mechanism, you have to make sure you get the two pieces: The horseshoe shaped metal flange that is bike specific, and the nylon ring that the tank lock bag clamps on to. The Nylon ring is universal. But damn Givi does NOT sell the metal bike-specific flange AND the nylon ring together. Then they don't put a bright red disclaimer to let you know you need BOTH below until you read the details below the product description.

Here is the Nylon universal tank lock ring: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B007217PWG/ref=ox_sc_act_title_3?smid=A28DRJWEKFGXEG&psc=1

Here is the bike-specific metal flange: https://www.twistedthrottle.com/givi-easy-lock-tank-ring-bf04-kawasaki
 

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I've been using SW-Motech's EVO tank ring system for the past few years and really like it a lot. My only complaint is the cost. To the best of my knowledge, the SW-Motech system is currently the most expensive option; both Givi and Cortech offer tank ring systems that are a lot more affordable. The reason I chose to go with the SW-Motech system, was their tank ring had the smallest foot print (still does AFAIK).





I currently have the EVO 5-9L Daypack (expandable).



It's not the largest bag that would probably fit a N1K/Z1KSX, but it does fit my needs. Even though, I have hard luggage that I often use (even on short day trips); I still use my tank bag for carrying sensitive items (Electronics, glasses, legal doc's, etc) that I don't want to leave on the bike when stopping for breaks where I'll be away from the bike (restaurant's, photo-ops, bathroom stop, etc).

Here's a few additional picts of the setup on my '17.





 

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Thanks for the responses. Looking at the SW-Motech set up, a member on the Facebook group posted the City Evo and it's exactly what I am looking for in terms of size without being too obtrusive. Have read some complaints about Givi zippers blowing out and less than exceptional warranty support. Though who knows if it was some dude with the delicacy of a gorilla using it.
 

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As a side note, if you're looking for a tank bag alternative when you don't want something big sitting on the tank, the best motorcycle back pack I've ever used is made by GIVI and it's called the Easy Range model.

https://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/givi-ea104b-ea104gr-easy-t-backpack?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIm5b69vvX4gIVFbvsCh3hwASDEAAYASAAEgLmKPD_BwE

This thing is awesome. Don't let its price & appearance of simplicity fool you into thinking it's some low cost, hipster backpack for coffee shop rides. It can be. But it's extremely well thought out and very functional as a motorcycle backpack.

1) It's compact when empty and hugs your body so it's almost not there.
2) It carries its weight down low near your waist so your shoulders don't ache when carrying something heavy.
3) It has a built in helmet holder.
4) It has a built in sunglasses holder on top of and OUTSIDE the bag.
5) It has a small zipper pocket on the waist band for smaller items you can access while keeping the backpack on your back.
6) It is expandable to a much greater capacity. I've actually used this to carry home two dinner plates plus soup containers before without the need to flip the containers on their side! The bottom expands a LOT!

All for $75! Try finding that with brands like Alpinestars, Ogio, or Kriega!
 

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That looks like a nice bit of kit. Already have decent Cortech moto backpack so it wouldn't make much sense for me to get another one. My daily commuting I get by with just the official Kawi tail bag. Gonna pack light for this trip, but do want to bring some comfortable shoes for walking around the track all day.
 

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I use the SW-Motech setup that FeralRidr uses, in fact have used it for 10 years without issue. Take a look at the side shot above with the bag attached (I have the smaller version of that bag)..............the additional benefit of this setup that people rarely mention is what it does to add to the comfort of the bike.

You can choose how to mount the plate to the bag to have the bag sit more forward or rearward on the ring. I have mine set up such that the rear of the bag aligns with the slope of the tank. What I end up getting is a extremely comfortable and functional platform to lay my body on. I can have my full body weight on the tank and the bag for times when you are slabbing it. I can literally take my hands off the bars and just lay there. In ten years the tank bag never detached. It makes a big difference in fatigue when your day rides are typically 500 miles pr more like mine.

Call me lazy, but when I swap bikes with others, I notice this as the biggest ergonomic difference between bikes.
 

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Do you guys not like the magnetic mounts? Is there an advantage to the other mount systems? I use the 3m paint protection film to avoid scratching the paint.

Ive never had issues with mine, as long as it was on a bike with a metal tank. I need a new tank bag and am not sold on anything i've seen so far.
 

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I have used magnetic bags before, sure. I think ring mount is a better way. Certainly much easier to remove a few socket head cap screws and install a ring mount and just as easy to take off if you're not gonna use it on a regular basis. No having to worry about scratching paint or bothering with trying to perfectly apply paint protection film without any dust spots or bubbles. If it works for you, great. Either way, it's nice that we have options.
 

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Haha, good point. Kinda like a manual transmission on a car is an anti-theft device these days.
 
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I was in front of a target the other day. It's in a good part of town, but I realized I left my joe rocket magnetic bag on the bike. Not that i carry it with me because it looks like a purse.

I remember thinking someone could grab it as they walked by. At that point they would have a tank bag and 1/2 of my bottles water. Worst part was it would have been difficult to carry what I was buying.

Kawasakis ninja 1000 tank bag? How does it mount?
 

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Kawasakis ninja 1000 tank bag? How does it mount?
Mounts with a combination of a part that mounts under the seat and sticks out at the front with velcro on it at the rear, and a front strap with a plastic hook that grabs the front leading edge lip of the gas tank at the front and some magnets. Not enough magnets for it to stay secure without the front strap and rear velcro though. Will not work if you use a GPR steering stabilizer like I do.
 

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I think have the damper issue, too. There is no room to use anything associated with the front tank area. You had the GPR damper, I think, and my Scott's is in the same area.

That sucks. I like its shape.
 

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Here's the top ring of the tank.



The cable is what unlocks the top ring from the bottom. The tank bags come with a lanyard (has a snap on one end) that attaches to the cable's loop. The snap secures the end from flopping around a mated snap on the front of the bag.

As touched upon before, you install this on the bottom of the tank bag via 4 screws, and can tailor fit its position to your needs. The bag has no preset holes, you have to drill them. To make it easy, they include a hard plastic template and a drill bit, to mark and drill the holes. The bottom of the bag has a rigid plastic base that keeps the bag from sagging down onto the tank.



For security, there is this option. You'll have to drill an additional hole (it's also on the template), but that's it.



Basically the metal pin is inserted through the bottom of the tank bag and it locks out the mechanism so that pulling on the cable won't do anything.

Here's the assembly instructions:

EVO Tank Bag PDF

EVO Anti-Theft Protection PDF
 

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Gotta say, anecdotally, living in the second largest city in the country, and having worked for years as a motorcycle messenger, I have ridden all over, good neighborhoods, bad neighborhoods. While I have had an entire motorcycle stolen in the past, I never had an issue with anyone taking anything from or tampering with my bikes tank bag or top box. Not that I ever made it a point to leave anything particularly valuable onboard while I was out of sight of it, but still. I think your typical crackhead opportunist thief is not going to be able to see a magnetic tankbag and know that it's only affixed via magnets and can be easily removed.
 

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LA is nowhere near as bad as say, San Francisco or Portland, OR. I'd feel more safe in LA for sure. Depends on where in LA I guess. Bell Gardens...I'd not leave anything on the bike! West Hollywood, I think it's ok. LOL!

RC, the tank lock bags are very convenient. Very secure when riding, and yes people don't know how to dismount the bag so I wouldn't worry about anyone running off with it. Then there's no worrying about the tank finish unlike magnetic bags. The only downside is, tank lock bags do NOT hug the tank. On the sexy and shapely Ninja tank lock bags look like they float on top of the tank.

I Tyrmeltr pictures....
 
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