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Finally sold my cbr 500r today, the ninja looks lonely in the stable now. But it just sit there not getting the treatment it deserved. But the pretty little gal that bought it i believe will make sure it gets rode alot. She had on short shorts and flip flops and said can i ride it and im like please god no all i could picture was her laying it down and burnning holes in them pretty legs, but she survived and said its sold. I went on to lecture her about wearing riding gear and she said i know then started showing me the scars on her legs and back where she crashed her ninja 250. Said she was going to take it easy on it for awhile then as she turned on the main road i herd the two brothers exhaust singing as she was pinning it through the gears. I was thinking i hope she makes it home. The funny thing when they pulled up they was trying buy my ninja also and i said its not for sale. On the brighter side the ZX14r could turn into a reality now if i loose my mind lol.
 

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Mark, if a person drives by our local college, it appears flip flops and shorts are the official outfit, go figure.

In our area, there are a lot of discounted, brand new zx14's for sale.

I prefer a smaller, lighter bike, but would still love to have one. The engine is the highlight, but everything else is good, too.
 

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I kicked around the ZX idea allot before I got the Ninja, and still do, but it just seems like too much work to make it right. Then there's the cost to insure, fuel and re-tire. It's that perfect sport tourer size though and if you lose the cans and cat and drop the weight down to 550 it starts to become more appealing.

I came very close to trading my Ninja in recently as I got Day Tripper'itus, and I don't mean that as a knock on Day. But at the end of the day you just can't beat 518 lbs. with 140 HP with good ergos. My cars been in the shop for a few days so It's been all Ninja and I have to say I've re-bonded with it.

ON another note did you get a pic of that little thing in shorts Mark? ;)
 

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I kicked around the ZX idea allot before I got the Ninja, and still do, but it just seems like too much work to make it right. Then there's the cost to insure, fuel and re-tire. It's that perfect sport tourer size though and if you lose the cans and cat and drop the weight down to 550 it starts to become more appealing.

I came very close to trading my Ninja in recently as I got Day Tripper'itus, and I don't mean that as a knock on Day. But at the end of the day you just can't beat 518 lbs. with 140 HP with good ergos. My cars been in the shop for a few days so It's been all Ninja and I have to say I've re-bonded with it.

ON another note did you get a pic of that little thing in shorts Mark? ;)
No rock i didnt but she is suppose to come back and get a few loose items ill be ready and get a picture when she does. Also like you and Rc was talking about the ZX14r i was looking at one listed at my dealer and just physically looking at it looked so bulky, thats one thing i like about the ninja 1000 is its relatively light, plus most of my riding is on curvey mountain roads so i might not like that extra weight in those driving conditions especially riding 2 up. Evidentally im pretty sold on my ninja or i would of sold it yesterday when they was begging me to sell both my bikes. **** i guess i should of let it go its not often you run into somebody that has the kind of cash they had on them. But i didnt hesitate when i told them it wasnt for sale. right now im trying to fight off the urge to go to my dealer and jump on the ZX14, ive got a weakness for bikes lol. But it would be nice to have a kick *** bike that was more comfortable on longer trips.
 

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I don't mean to hijack the thread, but since you are talking about the ZX14r, I have the opportunity to buy a leftover 2014 for 9500 OTD. Doesn't include tax and registration. Not my first choice in colors- matte black with red stripes. What do you think?
 

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No rock i didnt but she is suppose to come back and get a few loose items ill be ready and get a picture when she does. Also like you and Rc was talking about the ZX14r i was looking at one listed at my dealer and just physically looking at it looked so bulky, thats one thing i like about the ninja 1000 is its relatively light, plus most of my riding is on curvey mountain roads so i might not like that extra weight in those driving conditions especially riding 2 up. Evidentally im pretty sold on my ninja or i would of sold it yesterday when they was begging me to sell both my bikes. **** i guess i should of let it go its not often you run into somebody that has the kind of cash they had on them. But i didnt hesitate when i told them it wasnt for sale. right now im trying to fight off the urge to go to my dealer and jump on the ZX14, ive got a weakness for bikes lol. But it would be nice to have a kick *** bike that was more comfortable on longer trips.
When she asks you why you're taking pictures on her while she's turning around just tell her there's this depraved lunatic from NY named Rock who has specific needs and several issues :)

I'm in the exact same boat as you. I do a good deal of my riding on curvy mountain roads and enjoy that the most. However, I would like something comfortable on longer trips. That's why I was getting swayed by DT to take a look at the XR. It does all things competently. It's just too darn upright for me though. Unfortunately the Multistrada and the XR are the only bikes that are great everywhere. They're both ADV style upright, costly and in the Multi's case problematic. So that sort of counts them out for me.

I look at the FJR from time to time as I know it tours great and has almost the ergos I like, but then I"m like what am I going to do with that thing in the mountains. For the five or so long trips per year I take it's just not worth it. Sometimes I think I'll just get a used Vstrom as a brother for the NInja specifically for bad weather and trips.


I don't mean to hijack the thread, but since you are talking about the ZX14r, I have the opportunity to buy a leftover 2014 for 9500 OTD. Doesn't include tax and registration. Not my first choice in colors- matte black with red stripes. What do you think?
Great price. If you like the bike you can't beat it.
 

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Interesting discussion about the versatility of the Ninja 1000. I just completed a 2000 mile road trip in July (San Francisco to Whistler, British Columbia...and back) and then a 900 miler earlier this week (San Francisco to San Diego...and back). I really wanted to do some long travelling on the N1K.

I anticipated getting tired of touring on the N1K after a day or so. Not at all the case. I was very comfortable except for my right hand (no throttle lock at that point). It's not an FJR or a r1200rt, but I was more than happy with it. Now, I don't even hesitate to take it on full day road trips wherever I have to go. I may have an excuse to go back down to San Diego shortly, and if so, it will be on the N1K.

All that and performance in my beloved Santa Cruz Mountains as well. For at least the near term I can only have one bike. In that case the N1K wins over most other bikes.
 

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Rock, the concours 14 is not a bad mountain bike. fjr is even a bit lighter...

I mean, you wont confuse either with a cbr1000rr, but, if the bags are removed,not half bad.

Great handling, really, but high effort, if that makes sense. It takes work, but the bikes will do it. I adjusted to its size and weight quickly.

I spent the summer of 2011 with the c14 as my only bike before the ninja, and never felt the need for something that handled better. Plus, it started to get much, much better when the riding was 30 miles away.

People toured on old yamaha xs 650 twins. We have it made, nowdays, in comparison.
 

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I should mention I have the following N1K mods relevant to long distance travel:
Sargent Seat
Puig smoke racing windscreen
Ivan's reflash of ECU
Pirelli Angel GT's (rear 55)

After I returned from Canada, I immediately ordered at Kaoko Throttle lock (it was a toss up between this and the Throttlemeister). I used it on my trip down to San Diego and it's a pleasure. Being able to rest my throttle hand is a big plus. It's certainly not as convenient as a true cruise control, and it's hard to get the right setting going uphill, but considerably better than nothing.

I intend to do a write up of lessons learned by a newbie jumping into N1K touring, but I keep getting sidetracked with life responsibilities :rolleyes:
 

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Rock, the concours 14 is not a bad mountain bike. fjr is even a bit lighter...

I mean, you wont confuse either with a cbr1000rr, but, if the bags are removed,not half bad.

Great handling, really, but high effort, if that makes sense. It takes work, but the bikes will do it. I adjusted to its size and weight quickly.

I spent the summer of 2011 with the c14 as my only bike before the ninja, and never felt the need for something that handled better. Plus, it started to get much, much better when the riding was 30 miles away.

People toured on old yamaha xs 650 twins. We have it made, nowdays, in comparison.
I know what you mean RC, my sprint was the same way. It would do what you needed it to do in the twisties (albeit at a bit slower pace) but you had to work for it. Lots of weight shift and countersteering.
The Sprint, though 595lbs., had much steeper rake and less trail though. Very aggressive tourer.

I should mention I have the following N1K mods relevant to long distance travel:
Sargent Seat
Puig smoke racing windscreen
Ivan's reflash of ECU
Pirelli Angel GT's (rear 55)

After I returned from Canada, I immediately ordered at Kaoko Throttle lock (it was a toss up between this and the Throttlemeister). I used it on my trip down to San Diego and it's a pleasure. Being able to rest my throttle hand is a big plus. It's certainly not as convenient as a true cruise control, and it's hard to get the right setting going uphill, but considerably better than nothing.

I intend to do a write up of lessons learned by a newbie jumping into N1K touring, but I keep getting sidetracked with life responsibilities :rolleyes:
Ishi if you don't mind me asking, what's your size? Not that you dirty boy I mean weight and inseam :) I could never do the distance you've done on the Ninja. Maybe it just fits you better?
 

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I definately need to look into a throttle lock, my throttle hand takes a beating with this arthritis, i guess i will just keep the ninja for now since i love it, i need to get a truck any ways since my daughter confisticated my toyota tacoma, dad gum kids. Every time i get ahead my kids put me behind lol
 

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I definately need to look into a throttle lock, my throttle hand takes a beating with this arthritis, i guess i will just keep the ninja for now since i love it, i need to get a truck any ways since my daughter confisticated my toyota tacoma, dad gum kids. Every time i get ahead my kids put me behind lol
Yes. Arthritis just makes it more necessary. They are a bit tricky to use, but I think I've got it figured out. While holding the throttle in the desired position I can shift my fingers down to the end of the handlebar. I can work it with two fingers holding the throttle and the other two turning the throttle lock into the lock position. The other option is to just lock the throttle lock at a lower speed than you want to go, and then increase the throttle opening. It will hold if you increase it. If you decrease it, it will also unlock the throttle lock enough to let is slip closed. Check out Kaoko and Throttlemeister. They are the two people seem to be most satisfied with.
 

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Ishi if you don't mind me asking, what's your size? Not that you dirty boy I mean weight and inseam :) I could never do the distance you've done on the Ninja. Maybe it just fits you better?
Hey man, no problem!
I just took all my measurements for a new riding suit, so they are fresh in my mind.
height 5' 11.5" (my driver's license says 6')
inseam 32"
weight 230 lbs (I always tell myself "soon to be 220." Been saying that for quite some time.:D)
Built like a 53 year old who reminisces about the good ol' days of playing rugby, football, hockey, and eating anything I wanted.

Here's a pic of me coming back from Whistler. That's Mount Shasta, California in the background:
https://goo.gl/photos/SGrybDf3h4cLx7jL8
 

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Hey man, no problem!
I just took all my measurements for a new riding suit, so they are fresh in my mind.
height 5' 11.5" (my driver's license says 6')
inseam 32"
weight 230 lbs (I always tell myself "soon to be 220." Been saying that for quite some time.:D)
Built like a 53 year old who reminisces about the good ol' days of playing rugby, football, hockey, and eating anything I wanted.

Here's a pic of me coming back from Whistler. That's Mount Shasta, California in the background:
https://goo.gl/photos/SGrybDf3h4cLx7jL8
So we're close in size but my extra two inches... wait for it.... in inseam :))) might just push me over the limit. Then again, I haven't gotten my seat customized yet nor the adjustable pegs.

btw, I like that big tail bag you have.
 

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Watch out describing yourselves on here there is a adult film star lurking on here
 

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So we're close in size but my extra two inches... wait for it.... in inseam :))) might just push me over the limit. Then again, I haven't gotten my seat customized yet nor the adjustable pegs.

btw, I like that big tail bag you have.
Yeah, since doing all these measurements I took a close look at how my leg is bent while sitting on the bike. It's just a bit more than 90 degrees, so with your longer inseam your knee would be bent even more. That would lead to the knees getting a little more stiff over time. I didn't particularly notice more discomfort in my knees (than anywhere else) when I pushed for a couple hours , but I imagine if the fuel range was longer it would have shown up.

Tail bag is a Wolfman medium waterproof duffel, recommended by Omniron. For a duffel bag, I must say it is top notch. It also doubles as a washing machine for my textile riding gear. Add woolite soap, water and riding gear (with armor removed), seal it up, and throw it in the back of your car for a spirited drive (just kidding on that last part :D).
 

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Ishi, do you find it comfortable to use a tank bag? I tried using one, put it on my bike and made a round of the neighbourhood but couldn't quite adjust to it. The problems for me were two-fold, one, it seemed to me that I had to widen my riding stance at the arms; and two, it prevented me from leaning (my torso onto the tank) into turns. I had fueled up to the brim and with the additional weight of the tank bag there just seemed to much heft around the front-end to lean comfortably.

Maybe I stuffed too much into the tank bag! What was your experience?
 

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Rock, I'd heed Mark's warning, it seems the pickings are lean for adult film stars these days ;)
 
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