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Same with my 2020, WOT it behalves, no not like the zx14r, but there is no adverse concerning handling, it takes a while, but that would be expected, and yes my suspension is tuned for me.
 

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From a BMW S1000RR to a Ninja 1000? That would be a leap of faith I’d never make. Chalk and cheese. Day and night.

If you are sure you want to enter the sport tourer segment you should check out the 2022 Suzuki GSX S1000GT. The engine, frame and suspension are far sportier than on the Ninja 1000.
 

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From a BMW S1000RR to a Ninja 1000? That would be a leap of faith I’d never make. Chalk and cheese. Day and night.

If you are sure you want to enter the sport tourer segment you should check out the 2022 Suzuki GSX S1000GT. The engine, frame and suspension are far sportier than on the Ninja 1000.
Looking at that bike. My first sportbike was a Suzuki, back in 1983. But, yeah, the RR is an amazing bike. I've got almost 20,000 miles on it, and other than a new chain, tires and sparkplugs, it's been relatively "cheap" to own. And that engine...
 

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Seems like most of the important topics have been covered- geometry, seat, comfort, power, etc. A couple details that I noticed.

The bike does not feel planted at speeds over 120mph. On a true sport bike (like your S1000RR) you're accustomed to going 150mph and feeling glued to the road. Not with this bike. Anything above 120 mph, it feels like the bike is floating- steering is soft, handlebars wobble, the whole bike feels like it's catching a ton of air. It's mainly because of the geometry of the bike, there's not much that can be done about it. My CBR600RR made me feel glued to the pavement at those speeds, I felt very secure. I took my Ninja up to 156 mph on the speedo and while it was fun, it wasn't as steady and secure as I would have liked. So, if you're looking for a high speed cruiser, a ZX-14 or a Hayabusa is probably more your speed. But, the S1000RR probably feels smooth as butter all the way up to 190mph.

Otherwise it's a fantastic bike- and obviously the main reason I got the bike isn't to break speed records, but there are plenty of times when I want to book it, and being able to ride at high speeds for a sustained period is a plus.
My 2021 is rock stable at high speed. I'm lucky to have some very long, straight back roads that run between open fields. No risk of cross traffic, deer, or patrol. This is too tempting to resist, so I've seen an indicated 150 on numerous occasions, and was shocked each time I saw it. Did NOT think I was going anywhere near that fast.
 

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Looking at that bike (GXS-S1000GT). My first sportbike was a Suzuki, back in 1983. But, yeah, the RR is an amazing bike. I've got almost 20,000 miles on it, and other than a new chain, tires and sparkplugs, it's been relatively "cheap" to own. And that engine...
As a GSX-S fan boy (2016, 2019), I support Birkram with this suggestion.
I went back from the N1K SX SE to the GSX-S1000, and they are not the same concept of bike. Each does suit a different style of person.
I want in a big CC bike to have instant HP, an angry beast. The N1K is sleeping bear (pun intended), If you poke it hard it bites. The Suzuki snarls a lot lower in the rev band, a lot lower.
A GT will probably be a firm contender by late 2023 for my garage, if not then, it will probably be test ridden. A Honda CB500X is penciled in for 2022 spending program for now.

Rob.
 

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Haha I thought the Same. I'll be 34 next month but I love the N1k, have a 9 month old baby boy so when Mum and I get a sitter we ride any nice weather day.
I couldn't do long days with a pillion on any other sport bike I've owned so the N1k is great for us.
Ninja 1000 with sidecar. The chair will solve the present Family's riding needs.

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My 2021 is rock stable at high speed. I'm lucky to have some very long, straight back roads that run between open fields. No risk of cross traffic, deer, or patrol. This is too tempting to resist, so I've seen an indicated 150 on numerous occasions, and was shocked each time I saw it. Did NOT think I was going anywhere near that fast.
How long are those straights? I have a few roads like this near me, but I'm worried they're too short.
 

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I guess I'm saying comparatively speaking. I'm not saying the bike can't be ridden at those speeds or anything like that. The OP has an S1000RR though so from his frame of reference, the N1K is not going to be as stable at high speeds simply because of the aerodynamics of the bike and its geometry. The handlebars are much higher and the rider sits in a much higher position than on a pure sport bike like a ZX-10R or comparable.
 

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The bikes geometry isn't bad, and rhe front end is steady, but I hear what you are saying.

On this style bike, or even anaked bike, you are sitting straight up and your body catches a lot of air. This removes weight from the front, and pushes it to the back. Suspension set up starts to become very important.
 

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Keeping the RR might be the best option, for now. Since I can easily ride it for many twisty mountain miles (and have only 2 miles to get to the canyons), there's no compelling reason to sell it. Another consideration is that I've got it set up perfectly for me (Heli bars, Akra shorty, fender eliminator, etc.), and perfectly broken-in (at nearly 20,000 miles the engine is beautifully smooth). Having to start over, breaking in another bike, adding heated grips (standard on my RR), perhaps a windscreen change, installing fender eliminator, etc. sounds like a bit of a chore.

I suspect when winter's over and I can ride again, I'll forget about all the "moto porn" I watched all winter, gazing at other bikes while my faithful machine slumbers quietly in the garage, hooked up to life support (battery tender) and filled with stabilized fuel. Just hearing that Akrapovic GP shorty at the first start-up...well, it's pleasing.

Also looking at the BMW 1250 RS. Alas, there's nothing rational about motorcycles, but like most here (I suspect), we can't help ourselves...they fulfill some primal urge in us.
 

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BEARR, no joke. I have not had too many motorcycles that I didn't miss,after selling them. The money that came in was never enough to change my life, and the bike was gone......gone. A loss, at some level.

I was glad to see my 82 Yamaha YZ 490J go. It was one of the worst bikes Yamaha ever made.

When I bought my 06 yz250, it happened to be a "YZ250J". I almost backed out of the sale after I saw the J.....like the earth was warning me.
 

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Just get a demo ride man. Don't make a major decision without even riding the bike. I just went on a 1000SX demo ride a month ago.
 

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If the '17 RR let's you do the kind of riding you want to do, keeping it is the most logical choice. We all get newbikeitis from time to time. I've been guilty of that plenty of times, but what prompted the search for a replacement is usually something I don't like about my current bike that I couldn't mod my way out of it. The kicker is... no bike is perfect, and I end up finding some niggle(s) with the new bike, so the cycle continues. There is nothing wrong with simply wanting to try something new. We just need to be honest with ourselves why we want a new bike and live with the choice we make.
 

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Seems like most of the important topics have been covered- geometry, seat, comfort, power, etc. A couple details that I noticed.

The bike does not feel planted at speeds over 120mph. On a true sport bike (like your S1000RR) you're accustomed to going 150mph and feeling glued to the road. Not with this bike. Anything above 120 mph, it feels like the bike is floating- steering is soft, handlebars wobble, the whole bike feels like it's catching a ton of air. It's mainly because of the geometry of the bike, there's not much that can be done about it. My CBR600RR made me feel glued to the pavement at those speeds, I felt very secure. I took my Ninja up to 156 mph on the speedo and while it was fun, it wasn't as steady and secure as I would have liked. So, if you're looking for a high speed cruiser, a ZX-14 or a Hayabusa is probably more your speed. But, the S1000RR probably feels smooth as butter all the way up to 190mph.

Otherwise it's a fantastic bike- and obviously the main reason I got the bike isn't to break speed records, but there are plenty of times when I want to book it, and being able to ride at high speeds for a sustained period is a plus.
I do not agree with your statements about how the bike feels over 120. I agree it’s not rock solid like a SuperSport, which I also own. But I’ve never felt any wobble or felt like I needed to back off the throttle.
 

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If the '17 RR let's you do the kind of riding you want to do, keeping it is the most logical choice. We all get newbikeitis from time to time. I've been guilty of that plenty of times, but what prompted the search for a replacement is usually something I don't like about my current bike that I couldn't mod my way out of it. The kicker is... no bike is perfect, and I end up finding some niggle(s) with the new bike, so the cycle continues. There is nothing wrong with simply wanting to try something new. We just need to be honest with ourselves why we want a new bike and live with the choice we make.
Amen to that!
 

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How long are those straights? I have a few roads like this near me, but I'm worried they're too short.
From 65mph, if you down shift to 2nd and pin the throttle to redline as you row through the gears, a mile is more than enough space to reach top speed and back it down again. You'll probably hit top speed in 5th if your bike is stock. Again, common sense here folks, do not attempt this unless you are an expert level rider with tons of experience. You need to be able to feel the signs if your bike is not setup properly. You don't want a 100+ mph tank slapper! A guy here at work just killed himself trying this on his FJR1300 after he installed some new TBR slip-ons. Very sad.
 
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Keeping the RR might be the best option, for now. Since I can easily ride it for many twisty mountain miles (and have only 2 miles to get to the canyons), there's no compelling reason to sell it. Another consideration is that I've got it set up perfectly for me (Heli bars, Akra shorty, fender eliminator, etc.), and perfectly broken-in (at nearly 20,000 miles the engine is beautifully smooth). Having to start over, breaking in another bike, adding heated grips (standard on my RR), perhaps a windscreen change, installing fender eliminator, etc. sounds like a bit of a chore.

I suspect when winter's over and I can ride again, I'll forget about all the "moto porn" I watched all winter, gazing at other bikes while my faithful machine slumbers quietly in the garage, hooked up to life support (battery tender) and filled with stabilized fuel. Just hearing that Akrapovic GP shorty at the first start-up...well, it's pleasing.

Also looking at the BMW 1250 RS. Alas, there's nothing rational about motorcycles, but like most here (I suspect), we can't help ourselves...they fulfill some primal urge in us.
I don't recall if owning multiple bikes is an option for you. My buddy owns a track s1000rr, a street s1000rr and a r1200s for touring. Hopefully you can keep your rr and try something else at the same time. You can always sell the rr later if/when you find something you like better.
 

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I can easily ride it for many twisty mountain miles (and have only 2 miles to get to the canyons)..
I like to say that if my driveway drains into Mulholland Drive or US-129, I would get rid of all my bikes and just have a Daytona 675R instead. Honestly, if you blessed with that much canyon carving, even the S1000RR is too much bike. But certainly it's a better tool than the likes of the N1k.
 
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