Crampbuster

I have to ask what's the difference between crampbuster and throttle rocker I? That would lead to my question about patents. I can see that rocker II has Velcro. I assume throttle rocker released the second version to accommodate the larger diameter grips.

If you look at the crampbuster website they have a narrow or wide version. I was asking if anyone used either or had a preference.

If you further viewed their website they have 2 versions: under 1 3/8" diameter and over 1 3/8" for cruiser grips. I was asking if anyone knew what the diameter would be with grip puppies placed over stock grips.

My grip puppies have been in place for months. WD40 works best.
2nd pair installed. As I've stated before, no one will lose a bet underestimating my mechanical capacity and ability. My tools are the shiniest in town and my magnum opus is installing slip ons.

Let's spend more time reading and understanding the questions and less time talking down to other members.

Maybe we both should have viewed the links the other member listed before commenting further.

I don't have a preference to wide or narrow. I have always used the Throttle Rocker II. You should take a cloth tape measure and measure the diameter yourself. That way you have the info first hand. That's how I have figured things out for the last 38 years of riding motorcycles. First hand, hands on experience. I wasn't trying to talk down to you. Just never seen such a big fuss over grips and throttle rockers/cramp busters.
For the record I stated what I know about the products that work for me. And if they work for me I have no problem sharing my experience with them. For the record you shouldn't put WD-40 the grip puppies. Two reasons IMO, one safety, putting oil/petroleum based products on your throttle grip, how do I say this without hurting your feelings. I'll just say it, "not very smart", two, the grip puppy instructions clearly state to use quote, "INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS:/ You do not need an air compressor. Just apply soapy water to the inside of the Grip Puppies™ and slide them over your existing grips.

Didn't know questions = fuss. I guess follow-up inquiries = harassment.
Didn't mean to interrogate anyone. You may be right, some press conferences could be classified as torture.

Tried soapy water on a previous bike's installation and it was a wrestling match that made my forearms look like Popeye. Another forum member recommended WD40 and it worked great. Haven't slipped off grips yet.

In your vast experience, have you ever encountered installation instructions that weren't optimal? There's more than one way to skin a cat, and sometimes the omnipotent manufacturer may not possess the best answer.

When it comes to motorcycles, I'm not very smart, I have tons to learn.
I thought that's an important reason why we have forums.
First hand experience is great and the most instructive, BUT if I can learn from someone else's mistakes, that works for me too.

No hurt feelings, just trying to keep the forum respectful and non toxic.

"Every man is my superior in that I may learn from him."
Who knows, you might even learn something from me. Maybe not motorcycle related, but stranger things have happened.

We need members with your experience. Your input is invaluable, but if it comes with condescension, it detracts from the benefit.

This is someone's take on the comparison:

"A slightly better device would be one with the shape and size of the Throttle Rocker with the clamping system of the Crampbuster. Apparently the original Throttle Rockers were exactly this but changed due to infringement on Crampbusters design. If you decide you need one of these things then the best possible approach I can think of might be the long thin Crampbuster model which you then cut down and file smooth to get something that will not interfere so much with riding when away from the highway."

Either that or try the Throttle Boss. No fuss, just options.

NinjaRocket, I honor and appreciate your service to our country. In that regard, you are a better man.

That concludes my comments on the matter.