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I recently bought a used 2012 Ninja 1000 to use as my daily commuter. The bike had 13k miles when I got it. It was generally well taken care of but it was all stock all the way to its rear fender. It had a few minor issues inherent on the early N1k’s and have been well documented here and in the Rider forums. The 190/50 rear tire & the early wearing front brake rotor were on the list. The one common issue that did not plague my bike was the abrupt throttle response--for reasons I will explain in a bit. The first two issues were very easy fixes. A new set of tires with the correct 190/55 rear tire, and replacement of my front brake rotors with a used set of ZX10R rotors later and my bike was a gem. It turns out my 2012 has Ivan’s ECM tuning. I didn’t know about this when I bought the bike. The dealership who sold me the bike didn’t know either…I’m laughing right now. If only they knew. Because gentlemen, this ECM tune is the single best thing I love about this bike.

Right off the bat, I noticed my ’12 felt faster than my all stock ’18. Not just at low RPM, it was faster on top. It wasn’t a huge difference, but there is no denying it’s just faster everywhere. My ’12 has no electronics so it weighs 502 lbs wet versus a new N1k that weighs 519 lbs. wet. So that also helps a bit also. My tuned ’12 also has sublime throttle response. There is absolutely nothing I can do to trip this bike’s throttle response up aside from deliberately hammering the clutch and throttle coordination. No matter what gear, what RPM, what speed, I can shut the throttle completely then re-open it, and the engine comes back to life with the smoothness I can only describe as fresh synthetic oil flowing out of its container. Then there’s the engine braking, the tune reduces engine braking to make downshifting easier, as well as making deceleration without brakes feel natural. It’s never too much. It’s never too little. It’s always just right. Then of course there’s the added power and the low gear torque limitations removed. This makes my ’12 feel so much more eager, responsive, raspy, and ready to pounce with just a roll of the throttle. The icing on the cake is the top end hit. The engine never feels like the power tapers off all the way to redline AND it feels like it revs faster to redline! Did I also mention it’s smoother too? A bit smoother above 7k RPM than my stock ’18. The only downer is a slight hit on my fuel efficiency, which worked out to be around 3 mpg consistently compared to my ’18.

On the outside, my ’12 looks like just another used N1k. But man! It performs really, REALLY well. In some areas, better than my ’18. I am so very glad I got this bike. If you are on a tight budget but want the N1k experience, don’t overlook the early bikes from ’11-’13. Put aside a budget to get that Ivan’s Tune ($350) and the right tires right off the bat. You won’t regret it and you will save a ton of money versus buying new.
 

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I dont remember if your 12 has an exhaust on it? Slip on, maybe?

If you ever have a chance, try a stock 2010-13 ninja or z 1000. I dont think....
 

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This is why I will not part with my 2013. Ivan's ECU reflash makes the 2011~2013 an iron fist in a velvet glove.
 

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Northern Ninja, thanks. There were a handful of '11-'13 bikes up for sale in my area, all of them had under 20k miles on them. There were another handful of '14-'16 with under 15k miles on them. People must have been trading up or something. There was one '13 with 10k miles on it but it sold quickly. All these were within 75 miles of my zip code.

But don't let that picture fool you. Mine needed a scrub down and full wax job to get it to look decent. It had cobwebs underneath it, baked on dirt & grim on the wheels, swing arm, fender. But the paint had very few scratches so I got lucky.
 

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I thought those rotors looked familiar........

That bike does look great. I can't think of too many people who used an Ivan's flash and left the exhaust stock. I wonder what version of the flash you have? The exhaust looks so new that I wonder if the previous owner might have had a full exhaust, but put the stock pieces back on to sell it..?

Also, what position is that exhaust valve in, on the right side? Is the servo still in place, and is it holding the exhaust valve open? If its closed, you might be losing some performance?

I do like that 100% stock look.
 

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RC, the servo is still in place so are the cables. How do I know if it's in the open position? Does Ivan's tune disable this? Sounds like it does.

My plan is to put slip-ons on it before the end of the year. I did think about whether the previous owner swapped back the stock exhaust prior to trading it in at the dealership because the OEM cans looks pretty clean. I do like that the exhaust is subdued but still audible and I don't want a loud exhaust.
 

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That is what I was thinking....I'm sure his flash disables that servo. I didn't use my stock system for more than about a week.

On start up, the stock bike runs the servo through a cycle.....but, I think starts with open... close..then open again...so, of it's not moving, its probably open. I'll bet it was set up to close at higher rpm, when the bike is making more noise? Then again, it would be really quiet, at idle, with it closed.
 

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I'll have the check the cycling during start up to see if it's not moving.

I would not characterize it as "quiet" at idle. It sounds exactly like my '18 all across the RPM range including idle. BTW the '18's mufflers are wider than the '12's. Maybe that additional volume negated the need for an exhaust valve for emissions purposes?
 

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@OCLandspeeder, you said that the original rears were 190/55? When I bought my '13 N1K direct from the dealer it came with a Bridgestone 190/50; I swapped it out for an Avon 190/55 when I needed to change the tires. I've made quite a few changes to mine, including mufflers which are nice, but not offensively loud. I'll have to look into the Ivans ECU that keeps getting mentioned. Downside on mine is the minor damage due to a low-speed spill when I hit a patch of oil & water a couple of years ago early morning on my way to work!
 

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I recently bought a used 2012 Ninja 1000 to use as my daily commuter. The bike had 13k miles when I got it. It was generally well taken care of but it was all stock all the way to its rear fender. It had a few minor issues inherent on the early N1k’s and have been well documented here and in the Rider forums. The 190/50 rear tire & the early wearing front brake rotor were on the list. The one common issue that did not plague my bike was the abrupt throttle response--for reasons I will explain in a bit. The first two issues were very easy fixes. A new set of tires with the correct 190/55 rear tire, and replacement of my front brake rotors with a used set of ZX10R rotors later and my bike was a gem. It turns out my 2012 has Ivan’s ECM tuning. I didn’t know about this when I bought the bike. The dealership who sold me the bike didn’t know either…I’m laughing right now. If only they knew. Because gentlemen, this ECM tune is the single best thing I love about this bike.

Right off the bat, I noticed my ’12 felt faster than my all stock ’18. Not just at low RPM, it was faster on top. It wasn’t a huge difference, but there is no denying it’s just faster everywhere. My ’12 has no electronics so it weighs 502 lbs wet versus a new N1k that weighs 519 lbs. wet. So that also helps a bit also. My tuned ’12 also has sublime throttle response. There is absolutely nothing I can do to trip this bike’s throttle response up aside from deliberately hammering the clutch and throttle coordination. No matter what gear, what RPM, what speed, I can shut the throttle completely then re-open it, and the engine comes back to life with the smoothness I can only describe as fresh synthetic oil flowing out of its container. Then there’s the engine braking, the tune reduces engine braking to make downshifting easier, as well as making deceleration without brakes feel natural. It’s never too much. It’s never too little. It’s always just right. Then of course there’s the added power and the low gear torque limitations removed. This makes my ’12 feel so much more eager, responsive, raspy, and ready to pounce with just a roll of the throttle. The icing on the cake is the top end hit. The engine never feels like the power tapers off all the way to redline AND it feels like it revs faster to redline! Did I also mention it’s smoother too? A bit smoother above 7k RPM than my stock ’18. The only downer is a slight hit on my fuel efficiency, which worked out to be around 3 mpg consistently compared to my ’18.

On the outside, my ’12 looks like just another used N1k. But man! It performs really, REALLY well. In some areas, better than my ’18. I am so very glad I got this bike. If you are on a tight budget but want the N1k experience, don’t overlook the early bikes from ’11-’13. Put aside a budget to get that Ivan’s Tune ($350) and the right tires right off the bat. You won’t regret it and you will save a ton of money versus buying new.
I'm considering a 2011 with 31 K miles. Is this too many miles ?

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My '14 N1k had 68k miles on it when crashed. Still in excellent condition. With minimal care they last a long time.
 

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I'm considering a 2011 with 31 K miles. Is this too many miles ?

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My 2013 has 32,000 miles and still runs perfectly and feels solid. If properly cared for these bikes are very reliable.
 

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@OCLandspeeder, you said that the original rears were 190/55? When I bought my '13 N1K direct from the dealer it came with a Bridgestone 190/50; I swapped it out for an Avon 190/55 when I needed to change the tires. I've made quite a few changes to mine, including mufflers which are nice, but not offensively loud. I'll have to look into the Ivans ECU that keeps getting mentioned. Downside on mine is the minor damage due to a low-speed spill when I hit a patch of oil & water a couple of years ago early morning on my way to work!
If you do not have Ivan's flash for your ECU, I recommend you go out to your garage right now and remove your ECU and get it in the mail today!!! Best upgrade available for the 2011 ~ 2013.
 
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