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In my worthless opinion: I think the two target groups are the younger adrenaline crowd (ZX10) and the older adrenaline crowd (N1K). The ZX10's purpose is clearly obvious, the N1K's not so much so. It's in a bit of no-man's land. Not all the way sportbike and not all the way sport-tourer. Again, in my worthless opinion, I think the ideal N1K owner is a seasoned hypersport rider who is tired of touring on his ZX10 but is nowhere near ready for an FJR1300, Connie 1400GTR or equivalent sport-tourer. I believe the market for ZX10s is small but also think the market for N1Ks might be smaller? They are in a niche market and I think more riders who buy N1Ks are making better choices than riders who think they want a ZX10.
 

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What I like the least is that the ride by wire throttle, the clutch, and the shifter all feel too light and disconnected. They are harder to modulate because they have no feel to them. You get use to it, but it’s always there.

I also wish the power band was not so flat. It has great acceleration at any speed and in any gear. But I like Sport bikes (and cars) to keep pulling harder up near redline. The SX doesn’t really get you anything running it past 8,000 or so RPMs.

What I like the best is the nimble handling. I have great “technical” roads that I ride several times a week. The SX is stable when it needs to be, but is also simple to throw into tight corners and change your line mid turn If needed.

I want to stress that my dislikes are not enough to dampen my love for the bike. It’s a GREAT bike at what it’s designed for.
It is most unfortunate that no one has come up with a way to fix the 2020+ N1Ks. I don't remember if you uncorked your previous N1K and a hate to sound like a broken record but with a full exhaust and the ECU flashed, it increases power throughout the entire powerband and they pull much harder (the way an open class almost sportbike should) all the way to the rev limiter. It'll never feel like your CBR but they do get a LOT better once you let them breathe.
 
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Well, local for me is the Twisted Sisters! I’m assuming you know that I’m not in Houston anymore.
When did you move and how close to the twisties are you now?
 

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Everything is always relative and it's important to be able to keep things in perspective for one personally. For some the 1000SX is the most powerful (and torque rich) bike they've ever owned and for others it might be one of the most anemic 1043cc sporting mills. A full exhaust and the ECU flash definitely make it respectable for the hardened hooligans.

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Thanks for your feedback. My limited riding of the 1000SX didn't include reving the engine out past 8,000rpm so I didn't know that it feels flat on top. I haven't seen any dyno charts for the 2020+ gen-3 bike either but, looking at a dyno chart for the 2014-2019 gen-2 1000SX, I can see torque flatten after 7,500rpm and hp rolls off after 9,000rpm:

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The flat top-end of the gen-2 Vstrom 1000 is what killed the riding experience for me - just too flat and dull above 7,000rpm. It seems likely though that the 1000SX isn't as bad in that regard as my 2014 Vstrom 1000 was. Below is a horsepower comparison of the 2015 Versys 1000 vs 2014 Vstrom 1000 vs 2015 FJ-09 (from Rider Magazine, May 08, 2015):

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And here is the torque comparison of the Versys 1000, Vstrom 1000, and FJ-09:

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So where the Vstrom 1000 looks weak on the top-end compared to the retuned Versys 1000, the Suzuki would really look bad on a dyno compared against the full-power 1000SX.
Also keep in mind you're comparing a twin with a triple and an inline 4 which isn't apples to apples.
 

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I moved in February. I can do a 160 mile loop of the of the threes and be home around noon :). I run at least a couple of the threes 3-4 times a week.
Very nice. I enjoy the same sitch but I'm lucky if I get in two rides a week (other than commuting). I'm looking forward to many more when I retire!
 
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Got a quick 100 mile run in today between downpours. I'm jealous of both you guys. My favorite road was covered with wet leaves and mud that not even Roadsmart IIIs could get a grip on...:(
Yeah but in my case I have to constantly hear about friggin droughts.
 
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