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Old 04-23-2019, 08:46 AM Thread Starter
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New tune idle surge

Hello, looking for some info on an idle surge I'm having with my bike. Just had a tune done and that's when it started. 2014 Ninja 1000 abs, akra header, slip ons, stock air filter, Ivan's tune. I have a video of it and it's only while warming up. Surges from 1k-2k rpm. Was wondering if anyone else has experienced this.
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:25 AM
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If you call Ivan, he will explain why that is there. It's totally normal. I don't remember the specific reason it does this, but it's no big deal.
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Old 04-23-2019, 09:27 AM
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For me the more unrestricted I went with the exhaust the more sensitive the bike became if the idle was less then 1400. When I run without any baffles what so ever I still get a small surge from 1200 to 1600 for a minute or 2 during the middle of warm up. So I set the idle at or just above 1500 and it stops.

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Old 04-23-2019, 11:04 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the info. The exhaust is pretty much unrestricted. That's a great idea to adjust the idle. When I asked Ivan he said it's due to timing advance. Also should I be running a high flow air filter? Was going to keep the stock one but it's a little dirty.
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Old 04-23-2019, 11:05 AM
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I have non of these issues.

If I knew that ivans tune did this, I don't think I would of suggested his tune to so many.

It's not normal, but sure seems tune related.
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Old 04-23-2019, 11:10 AM
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It "does this" for a few minutes as the bike warms up. As the bike is sitting on its kick stand just before you drive off. After the bike warms up, its not there. On my bike it lasts a whole one minute thirty seconds. Less time on a warm day.

Once outside temp is over 70 its not there.
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Old 04-23-2019, 11:16 AM
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Oh, ok.

I missed that part of it being ONLY for a few minutes.

That isn't as bad as what I read. Haha
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:24 PM
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As others have said it's only to warm the bike up. My tuned truck does the same thing. I get my ECU back from Ivan tomorrow, I'm so excited.

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Old 04-23-2019, 05:44 PM
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Nothing that I have ever tuned has had such issue.

Everyone has their own methods of tuning, but this just should not be happening.

Few minutes on initial start up or not. Surging = not enough fuel.

This is a good thread to bring the faults of Ivans tune to the surface though.

If that's all it is, guess that is part of having to deal with having limited support for this bike.
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Old 04-23-2019, 08:05 PM
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If I were tuning, and trying to learn something, the real question would be why did he leave it there if it was a matter of adding a little more fuel? Think of how easy that would have been? He had the ecu on his desk and had several years into the project......
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