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post #1 of 81 Old 12-13-2019, 09:23 PM Thread Starter
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Front or Rear Suspension Rework - Which One First ?

One of Santa's Elves has indicated that there may be some money under the tree this Christmas for some suspension rework on my 2019 N1K.

I've had good results using Race Tech components on previous bikes, so I was thinking of going down that route again.

The trouble is, Santa's Elf only has enough money for reworking the front or reworking the rear suspension, but not both just now.

So, which is the "best bang for the buck"...


Do the front now and then do the rear mid next year, or do the rear now and do the front mid year ??
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post #2 of 81 Old 12-13-2019, 09:57 PM
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I think this is like asking for a new set of shoes, but deciding to settle on a left or right. There's no right answer when both need to work together to be good. I would wait and do them, together.

I tried a rear shock, first. That made the front of my 2012 feel way worse than it did as stock. Based on my experience, if I had to make the choice, I would try the fork first.
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On my last bike, I did the rear first, because I was heavier than the typical rider. That worked really well for me because the bike wasn't squatting and understeering after fitting the right spring.

When I did the front, it was bliss. The bike felt the way it was meant to be.

I weigh much less than I did before, but I'd still do the rear first.
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I have a traxxion dynamics setup on mine. I had my rear suspension rebuilt, then had my bike's suspension tuned professionally. Then after a year, I had cartridges installed in my forks. I also bought extra forks and rear suspension so I could enjoy the bike while it is being worked.

imho, more bang for the buck is the rear suspension.
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I’d go the forks first but then they’ll b a miss match. More of a contrast. So I’d save up for both. Or sell the wife’s jewellery, quickest way to get it sorted !
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If you are going to do just one end at a time, evaluate what you don't like about the suspension based on your weight and the way you ride. That should help you choose where to start. I have a 2013, and the rear shock was pretty darn bad so that is what I would have done first had I only reworked one end at a time.

However, I would agree with those who say save up some more money and do both ends at the same time. You will likely get better results that way and your bike will be sorted. I took mine to Traxxion Dynamics in Woodstock, Georgia and they did a very good job.

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If I had to choose, it would be front first for me. Stock had more diving under hard braking than I liked.
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Has anyone done both ends for a reasonable price? I think I was in mine 2000-2200 . That's the ak20 cartridges and a Penske double.

With that said, I really liked the reworked stock shock and that was only 350. Call it 375, with shipping, but still a damn good value.

I know I remember someone doing gold valves in the stock cartridges? I wonder what the minimum is we could do to the fork and not end up with a giant invoice, or massive downtime?
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Has anyone done both ends for a reasonable price? I think I was in mine 2000-2200 . That's the ak20 cartridges and a Penske double.

With that said, I really liked the reworked stock shock and that was only 350. Call it 375, with shipping, but still a damn good value.

I know I remember someone doing gold valves in the stock cartridges? I wonder what the minimum is we could do to the fork and not end up with a giant invoice, or massive downtime?

Race Tech ( www.racetech.com ) seem to have a Gold Valve kit for the forks for the N1K. Their website only lists models up to 2016, but I think they also have a kit for the 2017+ models. They also have a kit for the rear shock as well as replacement springs.

I'll be having a chat with Terry Hay at Shock Treatment (Race Tech Importer / Guru for Australia) in a few weeks to see what he can do for me.
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I did gold valves and springs on the front of a VFR from a local mechanic who went off and got Racetec certified. It was just under $1000. Seemed pretty expensive at the time but it did a good job helping with the suspension. Since I replaced sacked springs and old fork oil at the same time I did the gold valve job on a 50k mile bike I'm not sure what helped the most.
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