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08-24-2019 01:01 PM
Burtcaster I use one more like the the 1st one, but with equal length jaws. I've never had to take any body work off, even using the long version filter.

Rotella T6 and a filter at Walmart for 25 bucks for me. No way I spend $64 for an oil change, unless someone can show me conclusive proof of something better. I never saw it working in one of the best lubricants labs in the country.
08-23-2019 07:13 PM
rcannon409 Love that middle one. I have to find one, that size.
08-23-2019 04:36 PM
57x My oil wrenches of choice. The top one is a cheapie Harbor Freight one. It started slipping at the joint to adjust size, but worked great for years. I recently bought the ChannelLock versions, small and larger. I don't care how tight or how screwed up the filter is, these will get the filter off.

08-23-2019 12:13 AM
rcannon409 Once the filter housing is ripped apart, you have the top to work with. That has some strength to it. Two Phillip's screwdrivers, and an "h" pattern. We have a a machine....in fact, I'm standing by the son of a bitch..... It welds filters in place. On the motorcycles, it is easy to get to.

Really, on any of these forums, the oil talk is constant. You just dont hear of oil failures, or clutch failures , from oil. Even car oil. I know people who have no idea there is such thing as motorcycle oil. It gets used a lot.

Transmissions bet messed up from improperly used, or timed quickshifters. The ninjas and z 1000's will lose gears, occasionally, but it's not like an oil related fail when teeth fall off. I get the feeling this oil is all good enough, and maybe the top end stuff is better, but all are above that bottom line. Even our nina clutch "issue". Although oil related, it's not oil quality related.
08-22-2019 05:00 PM
OCLandspeeder I did the screwdriver trick on an Audi oil filter put on REAL tight at the factory. Didn't work. Shredded the filter.

Back up: tow car to dealership, pay someone to do it, swallow pride.

Get the wrench. Cheaper than towing.
08-22-2019 05:00 PM
Lag 4 I agree,,,,,I pointlessly fudge on the short side but not as bad as some,,. I do 10,000 KM's with full synthetic, it is a bit early but kindah works out to once a year on each of my bikes,,. Next to gas, tires are the biggest expence!!

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Oh yeah that's the way to go. Huge savings.

After years of using super expensive full synthetic oil, then changing at or before the factory recommended service intervals, I've come to the conclusion that spending that much on oil that you will throw away BEFORE the interval is a waste of money. In fact, the very purpose of synthetic oil is LONGER oil life. Why change the synthetic at the factory recommended service interval that was designed for standard oil? It makes very little sense but it makes us feel good. I have a friend never used synthetic on his Honda motorcycles, rode them to 100k miles, and never had any issues. No engine leaks, no burned valves, no oil burning. This guy just used Pro Honda oils all the time.

I mentioned before that some of the premium auto brands ship their cars with Synthetic oil, and they have VERY LONG service intervals. Like 15k - 30k miles. Seriously! But their engines also carry A LOT of oil. Sometimes 15 quarts. Our motorcycle motors usually carry 4 quarts, give or take 1/2 quart for a 4 cylinder engine. They also have wet clutches. So their designed to live well on regular oil changed at or near the factory recommended intervals. Thicker oil, or full synthetic oil on these engines won't do any harm but it won't give you that much benefit if you change the oil early or at the 7,500 miles.
08-22-2019 04:54 PM
Lag 4 Done it in a pinch,,. Only concern is what's the back up if that doesn't work after you have shreaded the filter!!
I like the nut on the end, or the filter nut attachement which Im too cheap to buy as I allready own 3 different sizes in the old filter wrench style..!!
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Unless you want to save the old oil filter, and have it bronzed, a screwdriver, pushed through its side, makes an awesome handle.
08-22-2019 12:15 PM
OCLandspeeder Oh yeah that's the way to go. Huge savings.

After years of using super expensive full synthetic oil, then changing at or before the factory recommended service intervals, I've come to the conclusion that spending that much on oil that you will throw away BEFORE the interval is a waste of money. In fact, the very purpose of synthetic oil is LONGER oil life. Why change the synthetic at the factory recommended service interval that was designed for standard oil? It makes very little sense but it makes us feel good. I have a friend never used synthetic on his Honda motorcycles, rode them to 100k miles, and never had any issues. No engine leaks, no burned valves, no oil burning. This guy just used Pro Honda oils all the time.

I mentioned before that some of the premium auto brands ship their cars with Synthetic oil, and they have VERY LONG service intervals. Like 15k - 30k miles. Seriously! But their engines also carry A LOT of oil. Sometimes 15 quarts. Our motorcycle motors usually carry 4 quarts, give or take 1/2 quart for a 4 cylinder engine. They also have wet clutches. So their designed to live well on regular oil changed at or near the factory recommended intervals. Thicker oil, or full synthetic oil on these engines won't do any harm but it won't give you that much benefit if you change the oil early or at the 7,500 miles.
08-21-2019 07:49 PM
drumbum I recently found oil change kits on amazon. They are actually well priced.
- 4 quarts of oil
- filter
- crush washer
you can get standard oil for $45 or synthetic for $65, its not a bad deal in my book and if you have prime it comes straight to your door. I bought a filter and a gallon of oil and crush washer last weekend from the local shop... the oil alone was nearly 40, the filter was an insane 15, and the crush washer.... I wish I had a receipt but i think it was nearly 3 dollars *eyeroll*

heres the synthetic
https://www.amazon.com/2013-Kawsaki-...dp/B00BSZ23HE/

and standard
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07H7R6DLN/
08-21-2019 07:21 PM
rcannon409 Unless you want to save the old oil filter, and have it bronzed, a screwdriver, pushed through its side, makes an awesome handle.
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