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post #1 of 13 Old 01-17-2020, 04:52 PM Thread Starter
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Howdy everyone. I'm looking to purchase either a Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX or a Suzuki GSX-S1000F. This won't happen until next year. Currently I'm riding a BMW K1200LT I purchased from a friend. It's taught me about fairings, heated grips, and cruise control. Not to mention the smoothness of inline fours. It's also taught me that I don't need/want the Queen Mary, either. Curb weight around 850 pounds, and it carries its weight up high. At 64, I'm not quite the man I was and this much weight with a high c of g is not the recipe for fun.

I like the Kawi for the cruise control, ready to go panniers, better tires, better electronics package, factory heated grips available, and damn if I don't just like the look of it.

The Zook has much less in regard to electronics and just overall refinement, but it does have that K5 motor. Luggage is not as clean as Kawasaki's offering. In general, Suzukis seem to always turn well. I'm not thrilled with the styling, looks a bit like a scooter from the front. That's not a big consideration as I can't see the bike while riding it.

I never go on short rides, we live in the country. Minimum of 120 miles, in the mountains. My longer rides are 250-300 miles as I've discovered my arse is no longer willing to support longer rides. Anyway, I'm grateful this forum is available and look forward to learning all I can. Thanks in advance.
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Well.....we are probably a bit biased here for the obvious reason. But either bike will give you the agility and performance you desire. The Suzuki does have a great motor but the Kawi is no slouch and any difference in performance between the two will likely be negligible over time. The Kawasaki I believe will be the better tourer, and based on history return superb reliability. If you do end up with the Kawi, check to see if they are still selling it with the 190/50 rear tire. A 190/55 will make a noticeable improvement in handling.
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post #3 of 13 Old 01-17-2020, 08:07 PM
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Suzuki is just to ugly
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post #4 of 13 Old 01-17-2020, 08:34 PM
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I'm in essentially the same boat, though my current ride is a FJR1300...also wanted to shed some weight, ride something lighter and more nimble, something sporty in looks and handling, and have decided on a Ninja 1000. In two, three months one will be in my garage.

I considered the R1200RS (or now R1250RS), the Speed Triple, the Honda CBR1000R, Multistrada, and a few others, including a couple in the ADV segment. However, I've never been a Suzuki fan, so while of course it was on my radar the GSX-S1000F was never a serious contender...as someone who's had to make the same decision, I'm confident that I made the right choice.
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I wish we got paid for everytime we called the Suzuki a scooter. My ninja was fairly new when that Suzuki was released. A trade, back then, could have been made without that much money changing hands.

My shop had the gsxf sitting right next to a gsxr 750 . The gsxr 750 had a high bar kit on it. At that point, you could see that gsxs fairing was way, way too similar to a gsxr, pretty much useless for the upright bars.. The electronics it has were nothing compared to a modern Ninja.

Seeing them together made me realize I could make a far better gsxf if I started with a k5 or k6 gsxr, and added high bars, seat and rearsets. Maybe even a larger windshield. At that point you have the real engine, and real suspension. Cost would be half of a new bike.
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Thanks for the replies. I do find myself leaning toward the Kawasaki for a few reasons. Well, I love the styling. Should be well down the list, but if you don't get a bit giddy when the garage door rolls up... Cruise control, so handy. Not an absolute necessity, but after riding a bike with it, it's almost a deal breaker. Heated grips, in Colorado, are a huge plus. Oxfords can be fitted for $100US or the expensive factory option integrated into the bike. I'm sure others will be looking at the up and down quick shifter and six axis IMU and these are excellent adds to an already amazing motorcycle, but I keep being pushed toward the green because of the features I've mentioned. Again, thank you for your replies.
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Well.....we are probably a bit biased here for the obvious reason. But either bike will give you the agility and performance you desire. The Suzuki does have a great motor but the Kawi is no slouch and any difference in performance between the two will likely be negligible over time. The Kawasaki I believe will be the better tourer, and based on history return superb reliability. If you do end up with the Kawi, check to see if they are still selling it with the 190/50 rear tire. A 190/55 will make a noticeable improvement in handling.
I'll be the one to differ on the power difference category. It's roughly the same engine as my 06 GSXR1000, only cams, exhaust and tune difference. I put a set of Yosh cams, thin gasket and a full titanium Akra in mine. My butt dyno says it's close in power to my H2 SX, being so much lighter.

There's no cure for how ugly that GSX-F is though. It's why I put an ABM top bar on my GSXR, as I'm just not interested on laying on a tank unless I'm on a track. I'll use it for peppy overnighter's, and use the H2 SX for long trips.
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I wish we got paid for everytime we called the Suzuki a scooter. My ninja was fairly new when that Suzuki was released. A trade, back then, could have been made without that much money changing hands.

My shop had the gsxf sitting right next to a gsxr 750 . The gsxr 750 had a high bar kit on it. At that point, you could see that gsxs fairing was way, way too similar to a gsxr, pretty much useless for the upright bars.. The electronics it has were nothing compared to a modern Ninja.

Seeing them together made me realize I could make a far better gsxf if I started with a k5 or k6 gsxr, and added high bars, seat and rearsets. Maybe even a larger windshield. At that point you have the real engine, and real suspension. Cost would be half of a new bike.
As my earlier comment, I'm making one with my 06 GSXR1000. I already have the Zero Gravity touring screen and it came with a nice seat and Vortex rearsets so I can play with foot placement. I'm just waiting a month for the damn ABM upper triple to come in from Germany.
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In the ‘sport-tourer’ segment there is no bike that leans as much towards the ‘sport’ end of the sport-tourer spectrum as the Suzuki. I’d pick the GSX-F for its stonking engine and it’s R derived frame. But a motorcycle is so much more than a sum of its parts. The Ninja is a well-rounded package that will please all, it will never be a serial offender like the GSX-F potentially could. There is nothing to dislike on the Ninja, no real bugbear comes to mind. The Suzuki is your mistress, good to get the occasional shot of adrenaline while the Ninja is the wife you’re happy to come home to every single day.

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In the ‘sport-tourer’ segment there is no bike that leans as much towards the ‘sport’ end of the sport-tourer spectrum as the Suzuki. I’d pick the GSX-F for its stonking engine and it’s R derived frame. But a motorcycle is so much more than a sum of its parts. The Ninja is a well-rounded package that will please all, it will never be a serial offender like the GSX-F potentially could. There is nothing to dislike on the Ninja, no real bugbear comes to mind. The Suzuki is your mistress, good to get the occasional shot of adrenaline while the Ninja is the wife you’re happy to come home to every single day.
Can you think of anymore cliches?
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