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post #1 of 56 Old 06-16-2019, 04:15 AM Thread Starter
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Fuelling and AFR

I find that a lot of people here have added either slip-ons or a full system. But I also notice that no one is talking about fuelling. Can I assume that the fuelling is managed well with the stock map even with a full system exhaust? Is it lean at the higher revs/gears?

Also, are most of the exhaust fitments accompanied by a change in the filter also or with stock filter?

Look forward to hearing what you guys have done. Thanks.
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Akrapovich mentions in there add that no fuel change is needed for there full exhaust. I think the consensus is if you put on a full system then add a high flow filter then you need to have the fueling and afr checked, more than likely you will need adjustment and also to get the most out of your mods.of course if you have a 2011-2016 nk1 Ivan’s flash will cover it.

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Its just like Mark said. You can "get by" without changing fueling on the 11-16 bikes. You can add a full exhaust do nothing else and be ok of the bikes live. I think you'll find very few people who drop 1000.00 plus on an exhaust who are not concerned with performance. The big exhaust manufactures know most people just bolt them on, without tuning and they would be crazy to sell a exhaust that would damage an untuned motorcycle.

Thats where this link comes in....or links. You did not mention if you were talking about an 11-13 bike or a 14-16 bike. Both are tuned differently. You can read about what the flash does. Its basically a map of whats wrong with out stock bikes.

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For these two specific bikes, no one has a tuning package that will compete with these. I would recommend doing this flash before an exhaust change. You might decide you don't even want the header.

So far Ivan does not have anything for the 2017 and newer bikes and its possible that he may never have a tuning package for them. You are sort of on your own with the newer bike..
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Yeah, I am on the 2018 Ninja 1000 and adding bits one at a time. First thing was to get the K&N in and it really brought the bike alive. I have not been able to check if it is actually running lean as I did not get a chance to ride her out but just in the city.

Both PC and Bazzaz don't seem to have a product for the 17' onwards Ninja 1000. Only option seems to be to go to Woolich.

Ivan's reflash doesn't seem to be an option for us people staying here in India. I do have a couple of tuners here locally but not too comfortable doing that and hence not looking at Woolich also for now.

Will post how my bike seems to be doing as I add the bits.

If I find that the bike is running clean with the filter, next will be the catcon getting replaced with a link pipe.

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I think that is your only option on a 2017 or newer bike. There are several people who reflash this bike but I believe they all use the Woolich kit.
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So, is anyone here running an exhaust with a filter on a 17'+ model? If yes, is it slip on or full system and do you have fuelling issues?

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We have had several people do just that. Of course you can. While it is probably better to look for a tune, you'll get by without one.
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We have had several people do just that. Of course you can. While it is probably better to look for a tune, you'll get by without one.
Agreed on the tune but want to know if they are running lean or manageable and no loss in power especially in the higher revs/gears.

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Agreed on the tune but want to know if they are running lean or manageable and no loss in power especially in the higher revs/gears.
I have friends running '17+ bikes with a full system without any issues. I recommend you install PAIR valve block-off plates with a full system exhaust.
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Thanks Bikram.

Which part of India are you based out of? Thats a pretty impressive list of mods on your bike!!

Also, any recommendations for the Pair Valve Block Off plates? TIA

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