What we are talking about has very little to do with a 2015 r1. The question was not about a reflash AND the Rapid Bike. It was about the Rapid bike OR an ecu reflash, and how the two compare. I dotn need to call anyone to figure this one out.
I could see using both if soemone wanted a quick shifter, or pit speed limiter, but if they are using the ftecu kit, and making fuel changes with the Rapid Bike, its because they dont understand the fuel tables and have not done the work necessary to put those changes into an ecu. I would be pissed if I had to buy both, in modern times because its pointless. Hes using the Rapid Bike because its easier, for him, to tune the fuel tables ...not because its better. The other reason they do this is to help secure their work. If you were to find his rapid bike map, its worthless without his ftecu reflash. Thats awesome, but still ends up costing the customer more money to protect the sellers work....no thanks.
Products that are amazing and fantastic on the r1 really on it wont apply to our Ninja 1000's. The ecu on the r1 bike is several generations ahead of what we have on our ninja , any generation. It sounds like the 2020 Ninja is upgraded enough to where it might be different, but not the older machines.
Second, the information I am giving is not my idea, or a secret. All a person needs to do is search and learn. When someone tells you they use the stock, slow reacting, emissions based sensor for tuning, thats bullshit, no matter who is mentioning it, or selling it.
The description of the Rapid Bike controller shows what it is able to do, and its not nearly as complete as an ecu reflash. Thats based on the description of what each product will do, or wont do.
Last edited by rcannon409; 11-06-2019 at 12:01 PM.